SPEAKER_00: 1:05

Je pense que c'est ça la vraie richesse du voyage, plus que de la découverte. Il y a de la découverte et c'est magnifique quand tu es en vélo et que tu vois des choses incroyables, et que tu vois des animaux, il y a plein de choses à regarder, mais le faire à plus dur et pouvoir en discuter, rencontrer des gens et pouvoir partager et parler de leur vision et de la nôtre, le voyage est vraiment là.

SPEAKER_01: 1:37

Bienvenue sur Lève Trappé, le podcast sur le dépassement de soi et l'aventure. I'm Loïc Blanchard, entrepreneur, coach and préparateur mental certifié. I've been sportified of niveau in judo after the tatamis for me consacrone at a sport of plein air like the triathlon and m'évader on a trade engagement. Recently, I'm devenuing the finisher of the PTL, an ultra trade of 340 km autour du Mont-Blanc organisation by the UTMB. After the création des Trappés 2020, we have two objectives. The first is to discourage these universities fascinating, envious. After my invitation, we're navigating. We participated at an expedition in the région polaire and Himalaya. We découvrira l'envers du décor of the entrepreneurial ethical de haut niveau and partira entire members of the forces spectral. The two is to audit to croît vos propres rêves and passer l'action as au partage de ces invités exceptionnels. Cette conversation, c'est pour moi un superbe témoignage de résilient de la part d'un homme qui considère que tout est possible. Et finalement, ça le message que j'ai envie de retenir. La vie est un long voyage ou le qui vaut la peine d'être connecté. Alors n'attendons pas le bon moment pour se lancer une fédérée. Le bon moment, c'est une merde. Comptez vos frotters à l'inconnu maintenant. Il est en réalité bien plus accessible que compte et vous êtes capable de faire face. Merci Vincent pour ce magnifique moment d'humanité. Excellente écoute à vous les frapper. Eh bien écoute, bienvenue Vincent sur le podcast. Merci de m'avoir invité. Avec grand plaisir. Je suis très content qu'on puisse te faire ce petit échange. Depuis le temps que je suis tes aventures via Instagram, comme quoi je n'étais pas un grand convaincu de la puissance des réseaux sociaux.

SPEAKER_00: 4:22

Alors Vincent, it's a complicated. My history has created a frein. I'm thinking that it's a bit inconscient, but I have a reusance, there are plenty of things that are in face of me for that I rate. And at the moment you arrive, but it was always and I do lutter between that. I'm also who has been to the discovery. I was amourado of London without why, so I had two jours, two semen to six. I think it's the stories of Gandhi when I was to tell these people who saw that arms who were and who had to get. It was a little for affording my phone at a moment. And at a moment I wanted to join the life and the vélo. It was a bit for my parents that I chanted a defiant vélo and I changed a competition because for me, the vélo it was the competition. It was an vision of the vélo that I had at the moment of the time that has been evolved now. And I was living on the Racecross America at the time. Certainly. For me, it's ultra distance solo. But I had a Paris Casablanca on the day and other things after. Excellent.

SPEAKER_01: 7:26

Excellent. The Paris Casablanca, it's a famous project Retour of Source, is that? Exactly, okay. Okay. Okay, okay. Okay, super. Sacré parcours. What was your role in the fact that you're listening in a pratique and for the cool thing you're doing in the excuse, you commence things, you arrest a couple, etc. So I'm the impression that it during a moment, this attachment to the sport.

SPEAKER_00: 8:18

Pardon. And I have a rugby like me, but I would have in the club where he was, because for me, the further in another club, it was a little trah. And we lived in Seine-et-Marne. But this is in Seine-et-Marne for nothing just an entrainment of the lady. And I said, it's not in your club or it's not. And I was at the club and I was. It was an cyclist, so we had it a cyclist. We made a key to there, we did make zigzags to maitrous. We passed a bascule and we descended. And I thought it was ridiculous. We passed it through a bar, we did the maximum, a bidon that was posted by the door and reposed very long. And then we had a sprint on the route very quick. And we went a velo with a veloce in the four. About my BMX after that, but I'm gonna say the show at the episode. And the liberty. I'm a casual particular. I have a lot of training on interior. Because the measure for me is ennui. People like what I'm saying. After it had been that I'm at this end, but I envisage to dynamage. I think if you arrive at another end, it will please a little bit, but another end and run to a main end, it will ennist. And I've got that notion when I do home trainer, it will be completely surrealistic. It was completely surrealist in a few days where I suppose I had a quarter of home trainer. And you adapt and I feel in function of me. I say that if I feel different, I will pass other things, and I'm not enough to pass. It's not in the veto in you, it's in the veto, in fact, it's an out that perfect to go as well. I'm capable of 600 or 700 kilometers sending.

SPEAKER_01: 13:02

Wow. It's like that is quite an element that is often mentioned by the people who are ultra-cyclism and great adventure of vélo, it's finally you have a great distance, make the vitamin at the way you fit, the time to profit the pays, etc. or in avion. So it's not what you want from one of the aspects that make that the people are accroaching, you know. I don't know if you can say that, but a rhythm a little human, right?

SPEAKER_00: 13:46

It's not the rhythm ideal, I think. I've had this discussion, it was telling you, 20 years, but I was in India and I was in a sack à dos with the transport in common. I lived in a village and I did a voyage at the end, and we had this discussion, and I posted the question just said I was genius that you arrive in the. And he explained that the way to go to the pied, the accuracy was different and that the voyage was really like. And I said, It's not the vision of the idea. And he too said no, no, the idea is a vélo because you arrived at very long, and he had a pied and a vélo. And in fact, at the moment he lives in a village, he accuracy of the same thing. But when he lives in vélo, he said, I'm partying this morning to that, and you had 150 kilometers, 100 kilometers, not important. And the people said, what I said this person is that for him the people in the house said that he had an effort, an effort very important for dinner, and when he was at the end, he had 20 or 20 kilometers, the effort was more great, but the distance was perfect in a fashion very different by the locals, and he said that for him the account of people and the perception of his effort and his life by the people who spoke in his life was important and bad when he was in veto. And there's this dimension of distance important, it has a rhythm that to know what happens. I think that in Velo we passed certain things where we pass at the page and people on the route, the chair, in the veto. But in Velo, we could also do June, and I rouled non-stop and I went to people who I knew at Metz. Okay. And at the end of one day you got a difference on the paysage.

SPEAKER_01: 16:12

And your life in general, is that you have a trip relatively long? You said that in London I was seven. Is that at Velo, you can.

SPEAKER_00: 16:28

It's right. It's a lot that I wanted to do, but now I'm celibate, so I'll get too facilitating, but it's not a chance that interesting my ex-compag. It was not possible. And I was coming in ultra distance also. There was a excuse for it was a competition and when we are in family and we have two people, say I don't have a voyage to make a short that was interesting, but I didn't have to do it. Ultra distance was an excuse. I was screwed in 2019 at the Rice Cross France 2005. And in preparation, I was screwed at Biking Man Laos. Okay. It was my experience ultra distance, it was a million kilometers at Laos. And it was just that that was interested, to church these at the strange in a play like that. The Laos I've been. And the COVID has annually that. I demanded to the organization what he remettre. I don't know if I referei the ultra distance at this moment. I pose the question, but it's time to get a voyage of vélo.

SPEAKER_01: 17:52

But then you know what you're doing in France, it rests a voyage also.

SPEAKER_00: 18:22

I've been renting. I was very bad in dyslexic, so I was very bad on science and very bad on France. And for the acquisition of language is complicated for me.

SPEAKER_01: 19:49

The way to not really know where you can pose the soil, is how you dorm in a pond, is how you want to get a person who will héberge. I think that it's really echo to the notion of adventure for me.

SPEAKER_00: 20:03

But it's married because we've said an aventurier, and for a long time I had to say that because for me, an aventurier is a person who was an idea that I was. It's married because we had also traversed the France with an among Guillaume. But he doesn't bought him because he is maladies, but for me, to leave and leave her, it's just an adventure. That's an adventure because dormant in the exterior, I don't know. Dormir in exterior in the world polar, I don't know. And for a shot that we don't have the attitude to be, we decal the aventure for me.

SPEAKER_01: 21:58

I put very example of an invitation who I have who is Chloé Dardelay, who is conviction, etc. It does have micro-aventures in France. She travels from Grenoble, I think. I don't know if you've got an episode, but it has a van on which it is, all the weekends to work, get their random, pack craft, etc. And in fact, we have a lot of that, you know, the sentiment of dépassement, etc. A travers of experience chicken at her name, we have. And after having either an episode, I think it was after, I was a night at the belle étoile, just Matela Duvet in Suisse. But after the taf, I'm party, and I rent the lending. And frankly, it was a supervisor and it was a thing at which I was habitually. And as you said, when you had a few days, it's something that you entream a bit, and you cherish other things, but in fact, it's not so estimately, I'm completely done with you. The dimension of the time that we can have in our life to put the wind, long, long, get a thing that the belly toil, frankly, or the night, you know, you have a trail of night, if you don't have it, it's interesting like experience.

SPEAKER_00: 23:24

Right, exactly. I think it's not the and it énerves enormously when the people say to compare and say, but to be an aventurier because you're that and I'm that, or to be a very cyclist. It's in the world of vélo, it's very enerving because I played also with another person who is enjoying a tour de France. And when they parlay, she said that it was a bit accepted by the vélo because they were less, but that it was not really accepted by the so you can bypackers because they stayed a little loading to bypackers, and in fact it's just one person who is on a vélo, and they are two cyclists, and those who change to know they pay telling their time for their conneries, but the adventure is face to us, and all the people can be, and effectively, a micro-aventure it's not more interesting than an adventure. And for an adventure long, really when you say you say that you've passed a long time and you know because you had the idea to go at a belly. If you are on an adventure and you find that eight years, the easy night, it procure more emotions like the first that you're passing like that. And it is the reality it's just that we are, there are things that have happened. And what does it do to me find at the end, and versus we have two things to change, but it's it's that's important in fact.

SPEAKER_01: 25:06

Alright, you said a little bit when you said I've had a little bit of impression that the explained that it was a little bit exutoire, the soup of decompression, your way to evading, to work on a quotient a little bit difficult to use. And you said that you have the sentiment of not surviving but working. And you know you said it's okay to talk about that. But when we're on the podcast of the resilience, I mean that there's nothing very interesting that you can partake. The sentiment you say that it is less than what and how you because you know from the point of view exterior, you have a things that I think extraordinary who are not for the portable of the world. The Race Across France, your very long voyage, retour of sources, breath, you're capable of language in a défis that demands enormously engagement. What's that?

SPEAKER_00: 26:35

In fact, it is linked to my enfance where I've used to have my place in my proper family, and it was complicated. I don't know. I think I've had a different, I don't know. It was complicated. It was complicated with my friend. Uh, who was a little jealous and who was a blagues on me for the adults on my poison, and I was in surpoids pet, and it was complicated to enter, and to see all these adults enrigat. And after we had been a little at the affront after these days. And I had a niveau international, I had a course international, I was so long to be pro, but in junior, I began to have a big. After that, I was obliged to live with, you went to a person who had enormous points, you had to read all the people with my points because I think that it was the same thing at which I could serve those to get the clown and it's difficult to construct enough adult when we have a failure like that in five. And it's certainly that that feels the extrême of the day. It's for that the courses d'ultra distance, I'm not sure to do it because there's a réussite, yeah. I'm not fire. And I don't know. And it's that has certainly constructed those extremes and I forgot, it's just a frein, in fact. There's a lot of freedom that create and at the end of my authorized to it. The early year when I arrived, I was afraid, but when I arrived at Maroc, I said you saw it. I did for the just normal for me.

SPEAKER_01: 31:03

D'accord.

SPEAKER_00: 31:10

I remember very much of that earlier where I said that you could be fixed of what I've done, I'm not.

SPEAKER_01: 31:42

And I mean, the guy is for Vincent, merci beaucoup to partage that with a lot of transparence. Or is it a try that is more in court and that you do already?

SPEAKER_00: 32:43

I've a little lush. The idea that I accompany fewer to work later, but I'm a little lush to say that a year I'm in phone with me completely to that. It's quite complicated to get and to change the things. I was conscient that it's complicated to make certain things that I feel. And for the time I arrived at it, but I have any players to discover, but I've got the Rice Cross France the first year when I finished, I rappelled by two podcasts where you enter the gentleman say that it has changed my life, I'm not the same person after I see extraordinary and when I was on the line, I've said, okay, that's all, I'm arrived, it's not an emotions. It's hyper trist when you reflect your cool, but it's like that. It's also that nourishing, it's also that must be on the vélo to change the performance at a moment, I'm selection in the departmental and finding their courses international. It's not that to make my life, but it's also that I put together well. And in the world of the entrepreneurs, it's okay, I'm a bit in rupture because I'm in a great group and that I think that already the people who are who passes 80% of their time to communicate. For example, what I think is that I'm the maid of my life and that already that corresponds, and then if I have security of the employee in a great group, it's time to work with that, even if you've had a project fixed. People at the top of these ideas, but I've known that I've had a lot of peace of my life that to démission and to lancer that is financially viable, in fact. It's just a question of time.

SPEAKER_01: 36:12

I party in very long time with a person with which I partage pas for all, but it was aided when I decided that it was time to dation with Apple. And I think an exercise too bad that was to leave the emotional of this. Analysis detailed of my dependence, what I've had exactly for the things essential, a loyal for an app correct, man, normally, etc. And in fact, it was a good idea to say, No, but I've got my rhythm of view, you know, that is extravagant. Finally, I've been like that. And for all I have, there's plenty of solutions that exist. Temporarily that's difficult, but you'll be quite doing a pet boulot, etc. So to have an idea of planification, a bit like you prepared an adventure, you know, to say the premier it does pass that, deuxième that, that was aid, enough.

SPEAKER_00: 37:08

Ouais, okay.

SPEAKER_01: 37:09

If you're not in that phase also, that's an option.

SPEAKER_00: 37:13

But I think en parlant comme ça, it's plus une peur de mon histoire, échouer, c'est compliqué for me. Parce que financièrement, en fait, je l'ai déjà travaillé and là je signe la vente de ma maison, donc je vais partir and j'aurai plus de crédit and that the début of the podcast, but you have a grand chance that after the fin of the day, I quitte laughing parisienne for ailleurs. Normalement, like the vent of my maison, I would have to cash, so you're not dealing with it. And for consciousness, it's already a true inconscient because I've had a soup to échoue. I was lancing on two projects a little bit, and the two I've echoed. I've had what I've had to do and I'm in accordance with me. I follow the financier, but the financier that I ported plus my boîte and that I prepare the départ là.

SPEAKER_01: 39:20

Là je pourrais me dire que je suis fort, que je suis capable de realiser grand choses, etc. Is that a format d'épreuve in particular, assez clear, assez précis on t'a or notely?

SPEAKER_00: 39:35

No, même rien, in fact, you pourrais me dire in fact, moi j'ai the côté extrême, il est demain tu me dis on part faire n'importe quoi, tu me dis le truc le plus fou, je te dis vas-y. Je pense foncièrement que tout est possible, en fait. C'est justement une question de temps. C'est-à-dire que si tu me dis demain, tu pars faire le tour du monde à vélo, je peux faire le tour du monde à vélo. Tu me dis que je pars faire le tour du monde à vélo en 10 jours, là je vais dire non, c'est pas possible. Mais faire le tour du monde à vélo, c'est possible. Et du coup, c'est ça aussi qui fait que à la fin de mes aventures, je n'ai pas ce sentiment de réussite et de me dire c'est bien ce que tu as fait. Quand je pars, pour moi, il n'y a pas de.

SPEAKER_01: 40:21

T'as pas de doute sur le fait que tu peux le faire.

SPEAKER_00: 40:23

Ouais. Mais pas que moi, je pense qu'il n'y a pas de doute sur le fait que n'importe qui peut le faire. C'est-à-dire qu'à partir du moment où n'importe quel personne se dit ⁇ moi j'ai envie de faire ça ⁇ , si elle a envie, elle va y arriver. La seule limite, c'est le temps. C'est-à-dire que quand tu pars sur une épreuve d'ultra-distance, comme la RAF, tu as 10 jours pour faire 2500 km, okay, ça peut être là la limite. C'est-à-dire que toi, tu es peut-être capable de le faire en 11 jours et tu n'es peut-être pas capable de le faire en 10 peut-être. Si tu as envie de le faire, tu vas t'entraîner et tu vas le rentrer dans les 10 jours. Donc il y a juste une question de temps, mais après tout est direct that it's not possible.

SPEAKER_01: 41:00

Ouais, donc du coup, forcément, the way that t'es au bout de tes aventures, if at the time the spirit was in a completely inaccessible, you could. J'imagine que ça doit jouer un peu sur la satisfaction at the time.

SPEAKER_00: 41:26

I think that it's exactly that. It's a good one who remarks, enough, and I comprenais. Come on, I passed that derivation to me, Putain, if you're a monstre and it's for ethics, but now toi, tu le fais, c'est normal. And it's normal parce que quand je pars, je me dis pas que c'est fou d'aller faire 3150 km. Je pars en me disant que je vais rendre hommage à mon père et je vais y arriver. Et peu importe. Et pourtant, j'avais un délai assez court. Du coup, il y a eu plein de péripéties et que j'ai enchaîné deux étapes que j'avais prévues en une après l'arrêt à cause de la tempête. Parce que je n'étais pas sûr d'arriver au bout dans le temps que j'avais pour le faire. Mais quand j'arrive au bout, j'ai fait ce que j'avais dit que j'allais faire. Point barre.

SPEAKER_01: 42:19

Alors it's a few years that we've focused the famous project aux sources.

SPEAKER_00: 42:40

It's time to find me playing and correspond. These ideas were released to my pair. He adored the Japan, so I destined a tour of Japan. He must be in Inde the first time, but he made it in India because I've had enough to go in, but he made it in Inde for an aeroport at Paris. And he said, but it will be what it is that the misère and that the life is not facility. And I said I could also say the pied noir. My grandmother had to get his father and his two people. They were arrived at Perpignan. The principle is to render homage to my pair. And I finally at Casablanca. The direct to reliant all the points where my child had been. And when I traced, it was 3150 kilometers. The long distance that I had had was 2500, so we had 600 kilometers, 700 km plus.

SPEAKER_01: 44:55

And your family had the sentiment of having to try your place. My family, when they decided this project, who is a point of view sportive, is quite engaged. It was what the reaction?

SPEAKER_00: 45:17

After my pair has a friend and a son, and a friend and the pond the year of the entire time of my pair. And the grandfather of my phone has sufficient, and he enjoyed a message regularly.

SPEAKER_01: 46:11

D'un point de vue plus logistic, it's a question intéressante parce que ça va te faire marrer, mais je prépare mon premier trip à vélo of three jours. Moins de 300 km, pardon, donc moins de 100 km par jour. Donc voilà, un échauffement for you. But I pose a question on qu'est-ce que j'emmène, la tente, machin, est-ce que je prends vraiment une tente, sachant que ça va être en plein day, un duvet. When you part for a trip of 3000, enfin plus de 3000 bornes, maintenant que tu es rodé, I suppose, c'est quoi les essentiels with toi?

SPEAKER_00: 46:51

Well, that will not make it because just it's difficult to get 300 km in three years when we've jumped, but to get 3100 km when we're entrained for the fair. D'ailleurs, I'll party that you have an anecdote. It was froid, but I'm dormant. Okay. I was a videos, Ben, who m'a suivante. And he was very fatigued because in the voice, I think it's pretty complicated to get a saut de puce, to say, I'm filming at that end, change the end which will be sympathy to film. But he would not continue on meant it would have an accident of the chat. You went to the hotel, you dare, and I rejoin and we repart demain. But it's all right, he's been an aventure. I dore very much and I posed on the bitume or nigga at the moment where I've got to dorm. It's also for that the ultra distance in mode course, I'm not sure to go, because I'm excessive and the job and I'm saying to me recruiting for an equipe of vélo, you know. And for me, in the bar, I'm proposing other times to rent in an equipe of rugby. I'm not the corps for vélo, but I do not. And I'm loaded to be celui qui mène the moon, but I part with passenger. Definitely obligatory, but I'm joking. I'm dessert. It was encouraged an hour where I have an example and it was complicated. It's a bit complicated mentality to retour. But I'm joking. But it depends on the equipment that we have to have. I think I'm accueilly. I've decided the Wormshower. This application that relation to the cyclists who accuracy for the night and other cyclists who are. It's like coach surfing, but for the cyclists. In the principle, it's a Warm Showers. Normal I'm sure that it was initiated for the voyager can put a douche and Hyne it's not for the facility, dormant, it's not the durable, it's not to do for that that is the complex. But you know, it made relationships of cyclists and voyage with their passion or cyclists who work. And I was super getting that because I wanted to render because I was screened. I said that if a year I have that, it's only a while I hear one person, you know? And we were acquired by the first person, and we played with him, and he said, 'I have a voice with his family, because he has that and he went a few minutes, and said I'm a person from that. I'm to work and I put my tent, and I'm alone.' And you use person who is with people. For me, he admired to account with him and accueillies of a incredible, you know. Where the people say, demain we are at the time, but if you inquired, we want it's a automatic garage, you put your vélo, you apply to the boot, the garage ferments and you parted. You know, they have confiance.

SPEAKER_01: 53:39

In France already where we have a discourse pessimist on the people who roll the comment, who perfect the cyclists and it's cool to know that there are gents who are pretty to accura, who have confiance, that listen to them in, they demand on tour. It's genius.

SPEAKER_00: 54:38

I think it's good to watch and to dorm in his tent of his country, but uh and content to accueilli, and with which you have an échange. Du coup je l'ai fait avec lui, mais pas pour voyager avec lui. Lui était commercial, donc I voyage avec lui and son hotel, donc moi je n'avais pas de frais à part manger. Du coup, je passe la journée to visit. And I think that's incredible that's the end where I was Mère Theresa. And I was live in the park face to that, and I prove that incredible and I think these emotions, not for the life is very bad, but for what was the generosity that you have in these years, and I parled at haute, I'm returned. And I think that I'm too sick and it had sense to not partage, to see the shows too. For me, it has sense. I tried too much. I passed this moment where I tried it incredible and I had the chance to be here to say I'm still and I could not partake and it's dominant. But le faire à plusieurs, pouvoir en discuter, rencontrer des gens and pouvoir partager and parler of their vision and then construire another vision that sera plus proche of the reality. It's genius. Après, I've really made it. I don't know if too much I'm playing with their people. April I've had a pet and I've been accuracy by people who it was an ancient concurrent from me that I've had a few years on an episode, and he made you pass in the region, you can dorm at the meeting. And they voulu que je reste dormir. I said, I think I'm just enjoying passing the soir with each other. The voyage en lui-même is magnifique and I'm content to have pleasant choses, but I could partage, that's the plus, it's kind of the rencontre.

SPEAKER_01: 57:50

That's a very invitation to that. Franchement, this you're gonna say on the accueil, Warmshow, because I'm not saying it's equivalent, but the time it's not just the rencontre of voyagers, c'est-ce que those gens who t'en accueilli, visiblement they passed a super moments ensemble? An occasion for each of them in voyage en écoutant tes récits, en having part of a party of the venture with you.

SPEAKER_00: 58:37

It's exactly their discourse. It was exactly their discourse. They were in Allemagne, they went just the south of the Legend, and they accuracy for the night, and we accue the day a great voyage where we had a tour of the world, and we started a live, they wanted the live because the people enjoyed the lives. And for each it was a voyage, I think it's a fashion to each other. They are content to aid the voyager to have a voyage a little bit serein. And it's a choice, it's not obligated. And if you say that it appears also. And normally I think the principle original of this is really to earn a coin d'eau, but it would have been tuyau dehors, just to rinse it. But they have to nourish. And the gentlemen had prepared these things in the vent. They had managed because they mange thousand. Mettez-vous à table, they have served. But if they were preferred that you say okay, I'm gonna put a brioche for demain and they have less to have aid at the voyage. It's a pension until limited to say we're plus gêner qu'autre chose, but on racing that I did, I've had the joy to say that it appears.

SPEAKER_01: 1:01:25

He does have 45-50 times now. And who has an history, I don't know if you know, but super inspirant, enfance very, very, very complicated with a pair violent. He has a little with her. I thought the first time he presented the exam, he was 300 pounds, 300 pounds, 300, 300, c'est quoi? 300 livres. Don't have 150 kilos. He is clearly on surpoids and he had perdup pas mal de poids and he made a fair in the years 2005-2006 an ultra trail. Spontaneously you say the ultra US they have a lot of 100 miles in fact, so it's 160 kilometers with the denial generally. You don't need too much the fact that he has a chrono for this type of course. If you regard his result, ne serait-ce que sur the UTMB World, the courses that are listed less, he has a result of fou, tu vois, en pesant entre 90 and 100 kilos face à des gars qui en font peut-être 60. Donc son histoire, moi, ça m'a un peu fait sauter un verrou sur l'aspect physiologique, tu vois, en me disant, but je ne suis pas du tout à ma place d'un point de vue physiologique dans ce que je fais, mais bon, tant pis, tu vois, donc jamais je pourrais faire de super chrono, et c'est peut-être pas forcément d'ailleurs ce que je vise. Et puis tu as l'histoire de ce mec qui fait selon comment il s'entraîne, qui fait quasiment 100 kilos, et qui te tape des 25 heures sur du 160 km avec presque 8000 mètres de dénivelé, tu vois. Là tu dis, ah ouais, ok, d'accord. Bon bah en fait, en fait, il n'y a pas de sujet sur le physiologique, ou en tout cas pas autant que ce que je pensais.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:43

Ouais, ouais, c'est vrai, ouais. Après, toi, dans la Rice Cross France, quand l'année dernière je suis bien placée et que j'arrive dans le télégraphe avec Eric et Joachim qui doivent faire 60 kg and que toi tu en fais 85, quand tu montes en colonier, mais il faudrait que je develop 50% of what plus. But effectively, you're a force also physique, but you have the mental that joueurs telling ultra que ça rentrons en compte. The way to be plus, stabilized, that's aid. But I respect encore plus parce que j'ai voulu me lancer un défi. Comme moi je me dis que tout est possible, je me suis dit, tiens, je vais aller parcourir le GR1. I've had one semaine for learning, it was 70-70 km de marche à pied all the jours, and I've abandoned it because my pied was in an end possible and perdual sensibility a niveau d'un pied. Like, I've been encouraged, it's been plus depends. But for me, it's impressionant, because I've had l'habitation and march plus and chaque fois que je cours, I créateur une blessure au mollet. Peut-être, it's sure, I courses, I've had the habit and I do have a choc that are bad. Technically, there's a lot of things to have. But it's a limit. We have gone who are in surpoids enormous and who finish their shows like Ironman. Right is limiting, but I said that it was a little limiting. They're in 4 position with the troisième, who was particularly 20 minutes after me, so he had 20 minutes d'avance on me, at 500 kilometers of the day. It was complicated, I think. Après I was perdual. I perdu six or seven kilos on the day. And then there was a moment after the Rice Cross Paris where it was passed. In two months repeated. It's more in the performance, but effectively, if he arrives at performance, I think in course at the end, it's a little bit difficult because there's the shock and for sure if you have the points, but the shock on the articulations, the pressure on the pies, it is important. If you're not beside, how do you know?

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:28

Yes. You parlay d'une anecdote a bit that had been visibly on the project Retour aux sources. You can see plus?

SPEAKER_00: 1:07:38

Oh my gosh, that's the. En fait, ça agace peut-être les gens. On est en janvier, and it's the moment tu reprends, tu as passé les fêtes, tu es obligé de retourner au travail, il ne fait pas beau dehors. Moi, je me retrouve en Espagne, il faisait chaud, j'étais en cuissard court et maillot court, j'avais de la chance, je montrais des beaux paysages, je faisais ce que je voulais faire. Pour moi, il n'y avait pas de contraintes et j'étais juste content de faire ça. Moi, je ne suis pas in my travail, they are in the same situation, who are at the time, and they don't have enough to be, and they want a guignol month of bad things, and they do say, I don't feel like these things. And in the time, the advantage of their réseaux is that they're not obliged to regard. But it's their show, but I m embedded to embed their people. And in general, when I feel that you have au moins one person who rebondit là-dessus, for teaching that it's nice what you say, and then j'en ai eu aucun. And all the person continue, just aid, it's top to see our life. And you have a person in particular who made and who me said you say I don't know what you do, but I'm racontering an history. If you have that person who has served, it had sense to continue to feel. And it's that anecdote, and that changed the time of the time. I think that at the moment I've got a message hyper negative, of gentlemen very aggressive like I'm supposed to receive on the réseaux, it m'aura même pas touchée, in fact. Because I'm not à foot. Attack-moi tant que tu veux si ça peut.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:57

It's a super anecdote. It's as cool, it's six minutes, I made it in France. He talked about the video The Leadership of Tourists, and he talked of the manner, in fact, of the impact that we have in our comportment, in a manner completely inconscient, involuntary, to autrui. And he does an example, he was occupied of the account of certain students, in the university American. After which he interaged after his year at the university. And in fact, the first person with the which he took, is the guy, Drew Dudley, who will not say, but who is extraverti, optimist, machine, and an interaction with him that has completely changed that all his power, in fact. And he remercies a day on me, you don't know. This is the case, he has a souvenir. But I changed my life of adult this year on toi-mai, just in feeling what you do. And I think that this is absolutely genius because we have tendance for the people negative, who exprime very much about the things that you say, etc. But in fact, very we don't enter all those and things about which simply we could have a positive impact or we can release or sit down with a quotient difficult. So a fabulous.

SPEAKER_00: 1:15:50

And you put enormous place because they're their views to drive the others to remain the certainly not terrible. And you know that there are people who use. And I'm a little bit in the opposite, in fact. You see people who reach a lot, and I say it's genius, and I have enough to reach it. And there are people, but they don't have their place because they have a word, they have an aggressivity that feels that it marks, in fact. And those when they want a remote, they want their efforts at each other, and they will reach that. And they're both, and then it impacts, and their words, in fact, it is there, in fact. Each they exprime and they make a lot of people, they make the mind, so they don't want to do it. In fact, then you regard their eyes and I say, it's super cool what he's doing, it's super good. I think I'm not forgetting to say. I think it's the 13th June, and the date of signature definitive chez le Notter en région parisienne is for instant le 12 June. Ah ouais. I passed 12 heures on urgence. I was arresting 12 hours. I was sorted in urgence with an arrachement osseux a niveau du doigt, but I have a vélo, but I was in the course. I was environment at the moment, alors que j'ai 4e when I shoot. I mean, it's a plus decision, it's a course. I mean, là, qu'est-ce que tu fais? Si tu abandonnes, il faut que tu ailles chercher un train, mais il faut que tu ailles à l'arrivée pour récupérer tes affaires. Attends, mais aller prendre un train to allow alors que je suis capable de pédaler, autant y aller en vélo. Y aller en vélo sans prendre le circuit, ça me faisait gagner un peu, but pas tant que ça. But very vite, I've compris that I tour, so I was reparted. I'm reparted, it's my bad experience on the Race Cross France. It was passed on the 400 kilometers where there was no notion of course, where I was with the people, where I remember, I've had a gentleman passing, who was a distance pretty quick, who were in difficulty, I aided me in a situation a bit complicated, but I aided people, you have a bad anecdote, because I rejoice and his age and memory, I'm not sure very much, but I had 70 years. We came a person on the back of the route that we encourage, it's beautiful, I'm France, there's always a people to encourage. It's a fan who re-encourages. I said, But this person is. And then we rest with him and we rejoined a person at 20 years. I said, I think we are enough to rattrap a child. He said, Oh, wait, it's all right. The moral is when I rattle the child, I said, I let me with us, rest with us, it will be good. And the day was not so long as that, and we were 150 kilometers. And I was reparted and said it was his family, I said, he is remote. I'm saying, wait, wait, wait, I've got this, I've got this. And he reviewed, alright, I was at the end of this person, but I was reparted at Mandelieu and the first service for the plain. And he was there with his father, and we discussed it at the moment, and it finally. For me, Garmin, it was the first code, and it was 200 meters. I said, I mean, I have a genou in vaccine, and I abandoned it, it's not right, I've been enrolled and I'm going to descend. I said, I don't listen like that. I'm the demi-tour and I put a little bit of vitesse and I push, it rests 200 meters, I pushed the 200 meters and you're not descending. And you know that. I'm at 2300 kilometers of course there. When I commence to the first second, I appreciate the great error and I'm very males, but I said, I don't lose like that. I'll push, I'll push, but I push 50 meters, 60, after 60, I pousse the main topic on I never, but it's avancing. And I rediscute until I lay. When I commenced the ultra distance, I wanted many people satisfied to say that I was on the voting, and I was telling me ridiculous, and there are places, and I said, I did that. And I was on the vélo and I was. In fact, I was soup, I think. I was totally dormant. I was wanted the vessel that trembled, and then I was passing on the back, and there was a pet, but it was in air, and I said that I went and said, I went ahead, I pose tranquillamente in the air. I've had much of a block in this line, because there was a great tuyo that was passing the low at the game of the route at the right to continue my trajet. I tapped in the block, I had a salto, and I reception on the tight on the two block that was the entry and the sort of line and at the end of the hope. I did the ultra distance is fine for me. It's for that I did not repart at the day. Finally I did. And when I decided to participate, I did the Mont Ventou. At 21 hours, I think. I sort of my chambre à air. After the départ I've done that I've had two longer valve, I had attention to put the bad longer of valve. And now I've not been attention because I've got the mauvaise. And you call it and I'm not gonfler. It sort of as well. J'essayais de réparer with my rustines, but the rustines that I have are trophy, it next pas, it marched pas. Du coup je suis en bas du Mont-Vantou, it is 21h. I mean, how do you rest here? J'ai le shop that we've demain. Je ne suis pas fatigué, I'm not enjoying the dormir. I mean, tant pis, you are at pied, I monte à pied le monde and I redescend and demain it sera over the time that I arrived at pied. And là you're arrived and who failed to vélo and me said you have a problem. And in fact, he had the race of Cross France and he had been made horses parce qu'il had been as rapid. I repeat and I was quickly at 23h30 at 1 km, not 2 km, 1,500. And then I saw a kid who had a zigzag from me. I said, Oh putain, the mean is enough to dormant. If he descends, he went from me, and it's not possible, I don't want to say that. Then I accelerated, I went to him. And he went on telephone and he was very energy. He said, my father. He did. He was the 500 kilometers. And the morning, he said, they have too bad because there was a great accident the day, and then they had sure that there was a shot. He said, If you turn, they will force, they will force. He was part of dormir. And it was 400 kilometers and I rencontre these people. The person 70 answers who finished, that person who had mal genoux that I poussed, a person who was a little but I was arresting for many. Alright, I was very rarely on the courses for management, but then I was arresting for a very long time. I was asked for a regiment, I don't know what I could do on the vélo. I saw a guy passing, I arrêted, I did, Vas-y, I had a lot of people, you reparted, after I rejoined, I asked because he wanted to rejoin, he arrived, and I ran. And at the moment, I say that I don't have a course on me I'll be finished, in fact.

SPEAKER_01: 1:30:32

The Transamerica has to do with the Trans Divide?

SPEAKER_00: 1:30:59

Washington. And west to west, a little bit like the Race Cross America, which is with assistance and which is San Diego and Los Angeles, and it's a trajectory that's a bit similar but that is the north. D'accord.

SPEAKER_01: 1:31:22

It's what you explained about your support on the course, performance, etc., and potentially the derivatives that were. You say who organized the Poco Loco. And it was a bit when we changed the Poco Loco, it was a course so route or gravel on a distance that are for the moment very cool that the race across France. I think the plus long it does have 700, six, 700 kilometers.

SPEAKER_00: 1:31:54

No, you have plus long, parce que moi j'ai été un peu long sur la plus long, it's a true comme ça.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:13

The philosophy there are the Poco Loco, what I've retenu is that it's even too an adventure partagonic with other cyclists that an recherche of podium absolute reach of performance. Normally in September I've got a gravel man, because it works in the case of my prepace for the Alpsman of June the year. But the Poco Loco, I think the episode when you are cyclists, it is quite impressive, you know. The Race Across France. But the practical practice feels that there is a course, I've been where it is very hard, where they're very engaged. Alright, for a mise au pied, I would say, in the world of cyclism, I think an approach a bit different, still la Poco Loco, it's very seductive, in the way for me, of my point of view. For the premier course.

SPEAKER_00: 1:33:15

After the episode, effectively Race Cross France at the end, it was a plus and more, and this was more vice.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:24

They have been 500 bornes in 24 hours or something like that, the premiers?

SPEAKER_00: 1:33:30

But the debut is as well. Like they were arrived here or this matter, they were arrived at Megève. But it is very vital, and it was a plus and plus I was jealous on the courses long distance, I'm not ultra in France, but it's for the young people. Some of the people in 20 years and they don't know long, and there's no reason that a people long. It's ridiculous to say that it's a thing for the people, but they roll out. So it was Victor who is on the head of the Race Cross France. I think he has the most on the Poco Loco just at Barcelona. I mean, the long. But there are a guy who went super and that could run very long. And there's the plot of the text, you have I don't know what, but I did two days. The first day I entered blessed and I abandoned. The two, I finished. I was coming, but I had a moment where I was under the sommeil, but I was arrested. I did and I was a bit deep. I was like, I didn't know how many times it worked, so after I was in a hotel dorm. And after I saw a course and I finally, and the time I spent a computer, I said, I'm found at the place, it's funny. And I'm saying other things, and they play all the time of the place. What are they there, and there are a course in fact. There are people who have the impression of, but in fact, they don't want to play the case. After there are certainly people who are for finish, but 10 years for finishing, it's 250 kilometers of time. So there are people who are not for finish and who are not the place, and there are certain, but during the 15, I finally, in these cases, all the people the place and it's a course. And when Sylvain Georges is for the record, but with assistance, there are people who have begun to say on the reason it's not important, the mechanism, he has really compressed at the principle, it's not a course, it's a he said like it was a religion to get playing. It's the race of Cross France, it's a race, it's a course. The mechanism for the record, genius, and he will do the visibility. The mechan assumes, he did, and he said with no arrogance. He says what you arrived, but he prepared for dinner and fair. And that is hyper honorable, but it's also honorable to have that who needs at 10 seconds of the first of the chrono, who has not been the same time in the chance, that has the same physiological, he has the same number of vessels at his disposition. And there's this party, but these people compare. And because it's not in their vision of cyclists, it's not the bad. And that should be in all the events. For example, an event like the Poco Loco, effectively, for me there was no course, and it was just for the time it is, and it is for a time. I think that it's human, then there's a peloton, there's always a part of if there's a minimum competitor of, and there are those who are not competitive who can just go to get the venture, but it's just in the story of the partage, and it's bad, it's good that there are each other.

SPEAKER_01: 1:37:23

Yes. Yes. Excellent. We arrived at the super. Um, in conclusion, the cards are not doing, there are a lot of things that have already been made in place, but almost like the race across Switzerland, is that these ideas of projects, a voyage of vélo at the end, there are great things that arrive or that I'm made in place?

SPEAKER_00: 1:37:54

Alright, what arrives? No, I'm not. But these ideas, I'm 50 miles. J'irai rouler en Inde, that's a certitude. I should annully in November because of the travel, but I did yellow in November. And in India 50 000 ideas. A moment or another, it's sure.

SPEAKER_01: 1:38:27

I told me the tour of Japan, it's what kilometers?

SPEAKER_00: 1:38:33

It depends if you feel just the tour of the island principal or tracing under 3500 and uh, I think.

SPEAKER_01: 1:38:43

Ah wait, ah, I'd say plus, you know, two, Kyushu, Anshuki, Shikoku, I think that's it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:38:55

I'm a fainant. In my extrême, you're also the feignantise and she's the flemme to church to be sure that we can pass an island to another in vélo or a thing like that. So I'm a doubt, I'm not. I regard and I return in a situation where you gue for real message from me, in fact. They're the time, the people when they run, but they nerve with all the people and all the rest of the world, but in fact, they are nervous with each other. The part of time I say I'll be from low to low, and I have the point of day, the point of time, and the comut or Strava or Garmin Connect me, but pass by this route, and I passed this route. And I'm fine in the forest. And that's part of the adventure, and I've got the flemme to go line, I recognize. There are people who are the transcontinental, who are 4000 kilometers and visibly the totality of their circuit for knowing if there was a route. After I respect it enormously, I'm going to be pointilling on that, but no. But the tour of Japan, lunch, it's sure that I'm that will depend. In fact, my project, that would be to inspire a bit and I'm going to lancer a little bit of the défis, it was to role in all the capitals of Europe and the world at a moment. To ruler in all the departments of France. In fact, I'm just commencing that. I say that I will certainly lance in September or in October, and I come to have a petage. So I traveled from the France, I'm enjoying a petage, to return the bases because I have an information on that but it's a little long. I mean to month a film for 40 kilometers, for example, d'un circuit at the case of me, which say it's simple on CNMA, where you get it, and maybe get that and just say, I've had this circuit less at that end and I've seen that. If that would interest, it serves to work on a shows like that and get an adventure like retour aux sources almost one year. That series top.

SPEAKER_01: 1:41:57

Try to finish, it has a bad adventure inspiration. People on those episodes. What is you have a debrief of famous tour of Japan, your trip to vélo in India? That would be carried out interesting.

SPEAKER_00: 1:42:18

In fact, I mean, that depends on the maison because I'm employee, but if you arrive at my rupture, there's a chance that I part. If I live where, if I'm installing, and after I was installed, I'm a little bit life of my movements and a little bit of my calendar. But I'm going to get at the end of the prochain mousson. Excellent.

SPEAKER_01: 1:42:45

Genius. It was passionate for the synthesizing what we wanted to say, or concluding by a chance that we're not already doing, but if there's a message that you'd have to pass, we're talking about partage and inspiration. Is there a chance that you would partake for conclude the échange?

SPEAKER_00: 1:43:16

Well, if a person needs what he will do, in fact, if the person will find the couture or northern what, and it has enough, then we have enough to make a chance, if we have really enjoyed, we can find more. He is, he does the tour of the world. On the way he does have 10 kilometers, and after he has 10 kilometers, and assuring he will get an episode of 150 or 200 at a moment. The same limit will be a limit of time, to say I'll get the tour of the world in vélo and two semaines, and that's not possible. And it's possible in march at the pay, it is possible in sporto, it is possible in parapent, or nothing. A particular moment we have and that the things exist, then we can find. But if these people don't have what they interest and make it down and they arrive, then it later messages like that, and the society. But if you have enjoyed to have a sport, there are other things to do, but I think that the time and the and the partage, it's kind of important what they are, it's like it's that we need also the intéressation I say, it's plus beautiful, in my sense. And you know, I did dorm with always who accuracy, that you never jumped, which accueas one, you pass one to play of things that are interesting all the two. Check what we animates, but really so. And at the moment where it's a contract, and if you have the enemy. In fact, we talk a lot in the ultra distance of church the whole thing. And for me, there's no question to put it, the whole is the way, if you have, then you can change where you have it, but if you have enough, you can do it. And check what we have enough to do and fair. And if you have enough, you can do it. I've changed 50 million and it's not what I've done. If the name I had enough to do a vélo, I'd have a vélo, and it enlèves what I've done, and it enlèveras what I pour for those envies that you're telling you.

SPEAKER_01: 1:47:04

Excellent. C'était un super moment, je me suis régalé. Excellent, j'allais dire préparation pour la race across Switzerland. Plutôt croiser les doigts pour que tout ça se goupille correctement et que tu arrives à y participer. Mais surtout, écoute, bon dire bonne chance, non, parce que c'est des choix que tu fais, mais bonne transition, bon nouveau départ pour cet été, et puis peut-être avec un très beau voyage de septembre. Et puis ben on se donne rendez-vous alors pour le débrief sur une de tes prochaines aventures.

SPEAKER_00: 1:47:44

Ouais, parfait. Merci beaucoup et continue à faire ce que tu fais, ouais, c'est génial d'entendre des choses et des dans des domaines tellement différents. Moi je me rappelle que le premier, c'était justement sur quelqu'un des forces spéciales et j'aurais jamais été écouter un truc sur les forces spéciales comme ça. Et là, comme c'était les frappés, j'ai écouté, et c'est que c'était un des plus beaux épisodes que j'ai écoutés. Donc ouais, dans la diversité et tout, les frappés, c'était vraiment une belle communauté et que ça dure. Merci pour ça.

SPEAKER_01: 1:48:12

Merci Vincent, merci beaucoup. A bientôt. Salut. Merci d'avoir écouté cette conversation avec Vincent dans son intégralité et j'espère que notre échange vous aura incité à vous créer vos propres aventures pour cet été. Comme d'habitude, si vous avez des feedbacks, vous pouvez me contacter via Instagram sur les frappés.podcast ou par email à hello.lefrappé.com. Je vous le dis chaque semaine, mais je vous le redis, je fais vraiment mon maximum pour vous proposer du contenu de qualité gratuit. Donc si vous ne l'avez pas encore fait, j'apprécierai énormément. Vous prenez quelques secondes maintenant pour me laisser une note et un commentaire sur votre plateforme d'écoute de podcast. C'est en fait ce qui permet au podcast d'être plus visible et donc c'est aussi une manière de remercier ces invités exceptionnels qui se livrent chaque semaine à mon micro pour, je pense, votre plus grand plaisir. Pensez également à partager cet épisode autour de vous à toutes les personnes qui sont intéressées par les sujets d'aventure et de dépassement. Et enfin, je voudrais bien.