SPEAKER_00: 1:06

Je me suis retrouvée face à l'Eva, c'était tout calme, il y avait un silence en fait, c'était une beauté, ce silence, et je me suis dit, en fait, c'était une certitude. Je me suis dit un jour, j'étais en haut. J'étais persuadée que j'allais mourir. Je me suis dit, parle-moi de la mort. Je sentais que j'allais quitter ce corps, en fait.

SPEAKER_01: 1:37

Bienvenue sur Les Frappés, le podcast sur le dépassement de soi and the work. I'm Loïc Blanchard, entrepreneur, coach and preparateur mental certifié. I've been sportive de haut niveau in judo after the tatamis for me consacrone at a sport of pleasure like the triathlon and m'evading on the track engagement. Recently, I'm finished of the PTL, an ultra-train of 340 km along the Mont-Blanc, organized by the UTMP. After the creation of the Trappé in 2020, we have two objectives. The first is to discover these universities fascinating. About my invitation, we will navigate the mers du monde. We participate at these expeditions in the region polaire or in Himalaya. We discouvriera l'envers of the entrepreneurial and sport of niveau and we participate in mission with the members of Special. The two is to aid to grow in our proper rêve and passion grant of these invitations exceptional. We so estimate largely what we are capable, physically and mentally, and I'm convincing that a good conversation would débouch with a great changement. We have in the year 4000 semaines to vivid on Earth, already after. You want to off with angels on the doors and check-up medication to work, it's as impressive. The part of the way of the iceberg, you know what it imagines on the great expeditions. We talk about the result immediately of the expedition, the summer, because they're finished. But we want to talk about the rebonditions after the summer. The return is the return.

SPEAKER_00: 4:18

It was simple. I said that this type of expedition, we don't want to, but I think the experience, I mean, it's an etc. But the return is not simple, because it's not a nice physical, because it's kind of what we'll talk about. But also, it's just difficult when we attain some rêve, and one of their rêves, and a couple of reality.

SPEAKER_01: 5:07

People in introduction after Everest. Alright, the question was evident, I think, via the number of caskets with the which you join, with your atypic, with plenty of moments different exploring. But you present, Ariane?

SPEAKER_00: 5:24

It's a very bad question that I am in general because it depends on the context, I think. That depends on what I address. But I'm saying Oriane, Oriane Emar, I'm frankly. I'm here at Sault, in region Paris, but I'm here at Chamonix or in the montages. And I visited in Chamonix during three years. And how do I present? Actually, I say actually, because in the way I've been, I am a conference. And I published not a live the day that it was editions of Montblanc, which relates my ascension of the Lodge. And I do conference on the world of the entrepreneur where I have parallels between the high and the world of life. So that's what I do actually. And it's like other life, I have other caskets, I've lived in the Quay Dorsey for three days. I was in the centre of analysis and prevision and strategic think tank of ministers. And then I occupied the questions of religious. And after the attempts, my work was focused on the questions of extremism and violent and radicalisation. And I started in the centre of crise also in the university. And after that, I did also have a passage at the university, because I did my research, I had a long edit with a doctorate, so I did also the profit of university. And I started in the CICR also in the community international of the Croix-Rouge, in humanity. We were in Haiti, in Africa, etc. There are other caskets, and then I'm passing because it's more, but that's a pretty principal, I would say. I'm sorry for Himalaya because it was after very young that I was at 20 years, 21 years, I was at Tibet, Nepal, I was living a few years. And I was freedom by problems of society, but we can also talk about it by cerebral when I had 25 years.

SPEAKER_01: 8:33

Excellent. What's what you're asking about the suggestion of the religion? Is that a lot that was clear for you after the day of his education superior? Or is that made in place a bit?

SPEAKER_00: 8:56

I commenced my students in France, and at 17 years I had my back, back scientific, but I had not so. It's a little taboo, don't be on the branch of sociology or anthropology. And I was very attired by the idea. And for me, I had an attraction for the male also. Alright, it was the montages and the crazy, but also the mercy, because I have a father who is married, I didn't see when I was. And it's passionate the biology marine. And I danced in the biology also because the mind of the marine was great. And I study at Brest, I've had all the days university, just like the maitrice. I was on master, because now it's a master, they have changed the name. It was in biology, not in biology marine. And after I said, I was at humans. It was and I said I wanted to do other things. And then I study another master, at London, at the London School of Economics, social. And after I began a PhD, a doctorate at the London School of Economics. I was present, etc. I began and there was a link with the questions Tibetan. And I said to my professor at the moment, I said I should have Tibetan in the north of the Indians. The things were totally different. I was not even Tibetan. And at the moment, alright, I'll go back in the details, but it was at this moment, in this journey in India, where I had my hemorrhagic cerebral. And now my life was at the tomb of a Indian, I prefer my name because it has his importance, it was Maananda May, who is the member of the joy. And my life has been, because I'm here, and at the end of that, I did my doctorate in PhD at the London School of Economics, because I was like that it was not really that I was there. What I interested was the religion, the neurologic, the spirituality, etc. And uh, it's the life also that was that. There's a lot of people, there were synchronicity. The year my hémoranges cerebral, I went around, by has been a professor Canadian. It's like I was in Canada, who enjoyed the Buddhism and the university. And so it's like I'm at the Canada. So I was hemoralist, I was getting the contacts. I was like, what's happening, and I think that I've been doing it. And it's like that. But it has been a parcours simple, and I'm accepted because I've had a background in religion. So it's just an cheminement, but it's also the life, it's saisir the opportunity. And the life is pressed, and the things are present at all, there's a lot of things, we're attentive to our environment and what happens.

SPEAKER_01: 12:54

It's super interesting to see the how the work is constructed. Because you said, the life is not a long fleuve tranquil, and there are opportunities that are present to saisir or to create. Is there a lot of goal of the adventure applicated professional? What's good?

SPEAKER_00: 14:19

The goal of the life, because the science of the life for me, it's really the life, the biology, etc. And the science human, the science religious, it's also the life, it's the life, because the science religion, parasites of what I've studied, because my test of doctorat, the life that I'm supposed to do after, it fell a lot of money, and the view, it's really okay, the view, simply. The science human, exploration also from linguistic, etc. It's also the spirit, it's what happens, uh, I think that there's that, it's the exploration, in fact. I'm the example. It's like I have also that, I have to do it, I have to stimulate, I have to decide, explorer. And in fact, I don't know. I don't know separation. But I think it's not a separation, it's not the two, what are you, in fact. And I went and pretty good.

SPEAKER_01: 15:54

You know that it's this volume of exploring that it's been.

SPEAKER_00: 16:13

And I had at last I went two sweet text, and I said, I'm gonna go to Mukalache, and also. I did Mukalash, and we had passed by an agency local, and a year ago, we had the route and one year after Munkalash, the hall was blocked. And I think we saw because the quantity of niche they had, on my life, it was just that it was blocked in a certain time, and it was probably in the details, but we had, we said what we have now. And I said, Why did we get the Livestream? And it was not the only claim. And we were at Tingri, we organized that, and uh we had a yak. And we had a yak, and uh we were living just at the canvas of Livestream, and at the moment, the two Swiss, we had one of a village in Swiss, and we had one of the Swiss who had been in the same village. So in fact, we discussed them we had to be eight at the end. Normally it's interesting. At the time, it was interesting, and I think it was Tibetan, but we had to stay a little night at the camp, and we could marry with them, and they spent my breath, of their projects, etc. And I was done. And I said at the moment I marched a little bit low, I was 700 meters a little bit, and I remember face to the rest, it was too calm, there was a silence, in fact, it was a beauty, this silence. I did one year I was in the hall. But in fact, I've had no connaissance on alpinists, in humanists or what it was, I said a year I was enough, but it was sure. In fact, there was a rational, almost logic, and I was attiring from an aim, in fact, and I said, and it was sure, in fact, it was already less. It was already lost, I was in the world. And in fact, it was a very long time, but two days after it was now, there was this image of Everest and the silence that was there. And two years after, when I began just my PhD at Londres, and I've had an hemorrhagic cerebral that was altitude, it was a malformation of naissance, malformation congenital, and I didn't. And now I was my malformation because I've had a ding that I had three years later in Indonesia. There were other repatriations, and it was the two. My mother was there, I remember. And it's normal. It's not the biology marine, plonging. I changed the work and my students at London. It's right that I had formations on plonging, etc. So that was funny, and evidently the rêve of a year at Lebrun, it was in the day, but in fact, it was in the place because I just did it, but inconsciently I got it.

SPEAKER_01: 20:34

It was for what concretely?

SPEAKER_00: 20:52

But apparently there was always a risk, not now, I'm not trying to put aspirin, etc. It was a problem with the moment to put aspirin also. And uh, but he considered that it was dangerous and multitude, but I attended those days after, I didn't have because we're not directly on the side like that. I was really parap. So I'm at the time I had passed in other ways, etc. But I had this project to be, in fact. I've already been attired by that, and not even for the dress. But we consider that it was dangerous for me to grab in altitude, and to plonge, and it's funny to plumbing, I'm parenting. I was afraid, I'm not sure enough to remember, but I think in the yoga, because I was in a period that I had a lot of yoga, the yoga, and I had not been a position that I had. I could have been a democracy in the same position, the head in the back and the eyes in the high it had also time after, and I didn't know when the confinement. I went on my head, because I was a normal psychiatrice, in fact. After that I had the impression that my head was in two, because it was a bad thing.

SPEAKER_01: 22:52

You know that this hemorrhagic, you've got 24-25 years, is that?

SPEAKER_00: 22:57

25 years, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 22:58

25.

SPEAKER_00: 22:59

And it's sure that it changed your life, but it's sure that we have the shows in the same manner. But I've been in India, alright, it's married because we know that the mortal. We started. But at 25 years, we think that we're uh immortal and that there's nothing that was arrived. And it's right when it arrived, when I refer a little conscience, because I was party, I've had the chair, I was like, when I refer to what I'm playing, I was invoked at the hospital military of Deradoun. So they swan walk, etc. And when I was a little relayed and what happened, it was terrible because I said what I've done for me, that's that. And in fact, we had that notion of culpability. I was like, What is it? I'm not sure if it was an education, I should have an education catholic, etc. But I said what it was, I said cultivated, like I had, for we retire the life, in fact. J'étais allé sur les lieux de crémation at Benareth, passing a little bit à m'imprégner de tout ça parce que je me disais, I méditer on the mort, etc. spiritually, that there's something that can attack, etc. When we're on the shows, I'm saying I'm not pretty at work. Excuse me, I'm gonna say nothing because I think that we're on the grimest, but it's the rotation that we're acclimating because we're not directly, so we have an eye pulmonary or cerebral.

SPEAKER_01: 25:47

Pardon Ariane, because I'm in camp of Livestream in 2019, so I've been a little attitudes on that, you know, campass, etc.

SPEAKER_00: 25:55

I was in 2019 when I was in the Lot Center? In 2019. It's just the same period, in fact, it's exactly afraid and May, but I'm at the summer of the Laudet the 23th May. I mean, it's not in Out, there's a trek also at this moment.

SPEAKER_01: 26:33

The first time I was at Canvas, it was the Canvas Tibetan, but the other way.

SPEAKER_00: 26:38

In 2002, so that's alright.

SPEAKER_01: 26:42

The Lot C'est for sure côté Nepal. And then your ascension of l'Everest is uh.

SPEAKER_00: 27:17

And also it's because it was a cascade of glass to pass, because I was the cascade of glass was my huntise before the day, in fact. And it was looped in the accident that I've had, but I wanted to visit. And in fact, it's not the Tibetan, there was a cascade of glass to fresh. Alright, there's difficult, there's three, etc. But there was that cascade of glass to fresh. And then I said, if I think that the Tibetan is, I don't know how, it's the moment. And I decided to get the breath at the Nepal. And it had to replace, replace by the cascade of glass that I didn't know I had. And I said at what point it was dangerous. It's really a lottery, it's the roulette russe. It didn't say quantum that would come towards. I thought. Frankly, it was perfectly. And on the tour, in the cascade of glass, it was a little bit versus the day, it's less where I thought an enormous bruit, a truck, I'm not coming to describe this bruit, but it was like a detonation, in fact, like when we had a exposure design, like that, and a bruit enormous. And then I compress what she was entire, and then I said, I think it's we have the time for her, but I said that's what I craigna the plus, but it's not like in the films, it's not what we did, it's not like in the scenarios that we've anticipated, etc., the detonation, it's the deserter that was enough to caster the girl, quite one of the big ends of the cascade, and that I compress that it was fine, in fact. I was told it was very good. And I was made in bowl. I did a mini prayer, but at least two seconds I did. I lost the prayer and uh I was dropped violently by an enormous block, the eye of a great bag, and in fact I was my father was pushed in the end, and in fact, the completely, but I went on the door, alright. And in fact, I know the gauge. And then when I put it, my father said Orian, Orian, are you okay? And I did not, I had the impression that we were dropped, because I was flattened by a bat of baseball, but I could imagine what it was, because we had a batch, but we had like that on the face, on the ghost, the ghost. And I had a Pas possible because the taille, I devrais mortal, d'ailleurs I'm going to say the concept created videos. The matter he had, in fact, and just 20 seconds after the CERAC tomb, he had begun to film. But in fact, it's completely because he said it would be, yeah. And after, alright, I don't know what he had, I don't know if it's a telephone, it's a little bit important. After it was completely chaotic. After he did, because he was put on it touched by the CRF, it was a great nuance of it. And when he learned, etc. So he changed, and the telephone continued to film. But I've really shopped it. And then he said, Are you okay? I didn't have to read, but I did okay, okay, no, I don't know. And then he said, Lève-toi, he did-to, he said, 'I'm very dangerous, there's to come.' And I've never had the time to realize what it was, that it had to leave too much. And in fact, that's really the instinct of it. Because I did, in fact, I realized that I was in, that there was a lot of grave that had passed, that I didn't know, but I didn't have to sit down, in fact. I had no idea that I was enjoying it from the code. And then he said, Left to come. And then it's really an instinct of survey. Put what you're talking about, what happened, it's my view, you live, you continue, you live and you march. And after I marched, in fact, it had finished by the cascade of glass. And then I marched like I was full, in fact. When we finally been arrived at an eye safe of the cascade, I began to crack, then I began to please because I realized that she was on me and that. And after I was evacuated at the campbase. But one, they were decided to evacuate, I'm sure. And then I was evacuated at Catmangou on passing by the hôpital of Nouclaw. Because the meteor was moving, and I did three hélicos different. At this moment I recently said Kylian Jornett with Bertrand Delapierre who is there. I told you France, I'm beside. And with Chilliam, he was just like the family. It's a lot of improbable, yeah. And I thought that was my anti this cascade of glass, but we said touch but no, it will be happy, it will not arrive, it will not arrive. I had a signal just to evade the passage by the cascade of glass. For the lottery, I've got the lower. I was all to invit the maximum for not doing a rotation. Because now, there's plenty of rotations, to have a retour to acclimators. And that had been at the descent. And there were other members of my equipping. And after the passage was blocked, and after there were two who were away, there was a woman in the panic, I don't know how to go. In fact, it had the breath and then. And there was an American who filmed with his GoPro. And then he was completely on the side, because I did the video of the GoPro. In fact, he was completely in panic. For me, it was an experience traumatizing, but for all the world, in fact. And when I rent the night, I was at the Loucla because they had to be too happy to stay at Cat Mando. So they switched my blessing at the hopital. And sincerely, I think I was super hearing. I was like the chance that I've been to surviving. I was reconnaissant and then I was not at the sommet, if I returned or not. Please, in fact, it was that the question. I was telling telling me to be in the house. And the lunch we were evacuated at Cat Mandou. After I was a year at the hospital, and that's why I had my decision to work. But I didn't know that I had to work. I wanted to put my decision. I'm not told to my parents that I was at the hospital because I think I was not annoying. And I said very well that my mother had embarrassed. I attended to be here and to have put my decisions to be sure that I was influenced by others and that it's a decision that the earth. And my rêve of attending the summer of the Navy is pretty fun and that the burden, too, the traumatism, because there's kind of a trauma. But it's pretty good that the fear of the mortal, I said no, it's my rêve, and it's there before tiny. There have been tiny accidents, of things totally stupid that were, I said, but it's like I think I said it's what the probability. It's like the crash of the wheel, in fact. I said it's what the probability that I represent another CRAC. After there are other problems. There's not a CRAC that turns, there's also other danger. But I said the probability for another CRAC, almost I said, but I would really like the sort of charge between me and that, but I'm not saying I've had tendency to interpret it, to compromise what is the message, have a sign that they're not. I did not interpret what happened. I did not it's arrived, in fact, it's arrêted, it's not that I'm not. It could work in two senses. And I did no, it's what I recently. In fact, it's really easy, then my corner, in fact, the correct, I said, but no, I'm gonna go to the case. And there's a trauma. It's right in the passing by the cascade of glass, I passed with the same. Just my father was there at the summer. And at the moment I said that we were in the zone where we had an accident. And uh, I had the large eyes, and my mom was here. At the moment he had made the eyes on the pull and said, 'Relax, relax.' It's like it's not, but in fact it showed enormously. I'm done, it's not that I think. But it's right that I've not trained, in my equipped have trained because we were just a bit traumatized, but if we had been touching like I was. And that's a rappel, but I'm not changing, I'm preferred if I could evitate that, yeah. But I think it's extremely extremely chance. Is that that expedition that has changed in me? Also it's all an cheminement, there's a lot of life, and we continue to approach it. But it's like I said that I took it. If I had said that there was an accident and that I was at the hospital after I was dropped by a CERAC, my response probably, I was saying, but I'm returned, and in fact, you know, I discovered more things in me. Because I don't know, like we have, and that force of event, and that capacity of resilience, but then we don't have it, we don't know, in fact. And so we appreciate it, right? And so we have that in me, and that this enjoy to be because I have that force. I just dropped it, I was completely sunny, and I live and say, 'For we're saying yes, yes, okay, okay, I'm gonna go, yes, yes, I'm completely the mortar.' Yes, okay, because I did no problem or something like that, she did completely. I'm very doubled. I said, Pas de problem, and we're not thinking that it's not that it arrived, it's sure.

SPEAKER_01: 43:01

I'm trying to see an information just with an ancient invitation of the podcast who is a little specialist of the prevention of the syndrome of stress post-traumatic. And in real, I've not finished the formation, but one of the elements that I've released in the introduction, I would say, is the importance of the action. Right, just after the event traumatic, just like to be in mode passive, a little victim, on attendance to occupy to it, but in the action to put their responsibilities like to occupy and march on the battery, it's extremely beneficial.

SPEAKER_00: 43:41

But when we have, and we said Chamonix, when we have an accident, for example in Bretagne, it's not training just for montagne, it's not laying that because we're very attention. But it's right, since it is really a syndrome of stress, it during it they are completely blocked, it's blockage, etc. And it's right that it's it's not training, but uh, the syndrome of post-post-traumatic, it's the right that I had that also when I went in. I did this when I was in the mission at IT, when I was with the community international at Croix Rouge. I was just in the house, I was 14 years. I had all the urgence post-séisme. And so I was there, along with me the clip of urgency were rent, I was all the time, but it was constantly an urgent, it was sure. In fact, it was when she was sort of renting at Paris, I remember she was here, I made it to please for a reason, etc. You had that, but we let the time pass, and I've had other projects, she was retouring in the East Events to put my postdoctoral. So I was in the action, because I had other projects, etc. But it's like it's not laid train, in fact.

SPEAKER_01: 45:18

It's in the action and put it and that was part of the reasons for thequest you're voulating retour, or it was really and stressed.

SPEAKER_00: 45:35

No, d'ailleurs, enough at the hôpital, in fact. It's that's étonnant. In fact, I was pressed, I thought just early. I was like a pet nuage and I realized the chance that I had. I was just in this moment, and it's that it was bad because it's the same art. These moments they are pressed, and it's not explained just because it was really a form of reconnaissance, of gratitude, and I'm here. And nothing the time, it was that. Put the food, I'm like. And the decision was very simple, to put it. It was like an evidence. It was there, and I had nothing to learn. In fact, it's like you went, but okay, that's funny, I've been doing it, but it's all right. And I was told because I had the director of the agency at the moment, the expedition who was at the hospital. It was adorable. And he must say one, very just he made new decisions, you know, you put toi, you know, and let's see the shows. And in fact, it was the most consequence that he could do. And uh the decision was very clear for me, it had a doubt, in fact, I took. There's a few moments in my life where the decision was very clear. It is clear, it's an evidence, in fact. It's that, it's a doubt, it's that you do. And then it's not for logic. But I was surprised when I announced my decision. Um, the attention of my among me. Also, there are many people, I don't know, in the comments or say, 'Me' attention, etc. Alors that's not what I mean, it functioning like that, I don't have the diable, it's not but it's my decision, and encore one, there's person who can say what. And that I'm not either. But it's sure that it demands also away to them for not being polluted, not perturbated, not being influenced by the others, by their environment. But I demand the medical, no, I couldn't be able to be in my family, there are many medicines in my family. So I put in comments the medical, yeah, but I think that I was capable of me, and I said that it was that I was thinking that the things are simple by the time. After there were other obstacles, I would say. But in the case, okay, but there's a certain fiery, reconnaissance and also a fiery of me. Also, when she was in the day, it was not even an accomplishment for me. It's funny because the day it was good. But I was saying the fiery because I was curious for me. For the Lauder, I was the same fan of the equipe, in fact. And in fact, we had amusing to diminish and just more than all the rest of the equipped, in fact, because we're not ego at night of the climatic, etc. We have to be prepared physically, we're children, it's not genetically, it's just it's genetic, but there are support more climatic than those. And I think that it created a jealousy. And I was hyper, and at the moment I had this jealousy because I was in the house to attain the summer. And I was hyper because I was not very good. After I said, I was in this type of expedition, etc. For me, I was like, the rêve of the life. And that it was very different because I had an equipe, it was mixed, in fact. There were fans, there was an environment that was. I remember when I was in camp base after my evacuation, after my accident in LifePall, but when I was at the hospital, she was super bien. I had an account hyper challenged, they were my bouteille of vine. I made it that I had alcohol after an expedition. I said, I'm food, I mean, she's not trunk, I wear my vine. I mean fire aussi paraphone at that expedition. I say that she's chance, but I'm fired also because I was capable of just of that of the mortar, of that. I was capable of taking face to my peers, because I said that in repassing by the cascade of glass, it was traumatizing and it was. And in fact, no, I'm sorry, and I really think that I had a joke, I was fractured, I've had plenty of obstacles here. But for me, it's really I said it was a very bad expedition. I think he was heroes, yeah. And I regret it because if I had equipped all the time, alright, that's already another idea, or one, I should have heard many videos, it was couple. But if I had a good one on meant ah, there's a lot of money, etc. The montagne, I'm not kidding like what I did. There are many faux ideas, a lot of prejudices, and that's that message because on the summer of the NRES, I was quite sick with my life. I've had the rotation, I've had personality, the phase of the lottery, I was too. I've been embouched in the two moments. I've had that. The phase of the rotation. The only moment I've been a little bit like a bottleneck, it's like there's a moment you sort of a camp and a little bit of mind, sort of the camp 3 after the summit of coach, and of the ascension, but I've jumped out the emboute. When you see the shapes, it's like I'm a bit when I go to the media, the info, and those who are not even of what several. This week, 250 grappers have the rest, 250 people like me, plus the chapas, yeah, but they're not. It's not and in fact we say, we don't know that the Népalais limit and what they have to do on Népalais, in fact. And I tried that really tiny hypocrisy to do the lessons on Népalais, like we are not capable of getting the fiance au Mont-Blanc. And when we talk about surfacation, we don't have to go to the Mont-Blanc things on time. When we say the Pas du Gain, the Pas du Gain, they're the Népalais. They want to, okay, the permit for the VREs are there, but it's quite a total, it's$5 million of dollars and it's a present quote for one of the people the very poor of the planet. There's a bunch of suggestions for the pollution, where we said the people fricated, we have those who have the VRES, and I'm debt for the VRES, alors okay, I received a dough also via an association for the fans, etc. But that it was just one part. It's an emprunte at the city, and it's also a man because I would not work at the same time. And she has actually a malady of the verb. It was prepared for three years, it has been a rêve for her, and it has to be done because it's her rêve, and it don't, it rolls on the water, it is not, etc. And it has quite three people at chart. It's not all, it's not gonna be, it's not a millionaires who have the rest, there are people who have a rêve and who in the way of a big bagnol or other things, but my argument I make in the breast. There's two prejugations because I think telling things about the rest and it's dommage that we dénigres at a table this montagne and the house, but we aren't the pollution by the ozone. Alright, that's right, I'm in the créneau and there are, but I don't know that it's not catastrophic. There are also campaigns of it and we put also at what it's difficult for the Nepal to ramen at that time, because it's a question of survey, to raise and décharge. But another one, even if we raised, that shocked all the people to have a tents, three tentes décharés, and all the people that's gonna have gross desarts, the people living in a gross poubine, because there's a lot to recit and that shock person, but for me, three tents décharée and three bouteilles that train, that's uh it's that hypocrisy that message. And uh it's extremely difficult to do the rest with oxygen, but it's not for all the time.

SPEAKER_01: 58:02

About or save oxygen?

SPEAKER_00: 58:04

She has oxygen, perhaps. It's not difficult. It's difficult with oxygen. And when you see that you have oxygen like it was so, we'll get it just to camp 3 sans ox, because the camp 3 is at 7002, 7003. So you find that sort of oxygen, so oxygen, but we don't know for them to realize a bit, you know.

SPEAKER_01: 58:35

Did you arrive au camp base? Don't arrive en avion generally or en hélico à l'ouca qui a 2008. 2005. Après tu as Facting qui at 2008, si je me souviens bien, tu as Namche qui a 3004.

SPEAKER_00: 58:56

Ouais, a peu près, oui. But the track that makes it at 5003, but it's not all the one who lives just to camp base.

SPEAKER_01: 59:05

It does 5-1 for arrival.

SPEAKER_00: 59:13

For example, I've got infinite, you can see other variants, etc. But in general, it's a good semaine to sit in the camp base. And then you have the climate, and then you have the rotation. But the rotation, you have a bouteille d'oxygène. Alors peut-être que you're and tricher, I don't know, but the very great majority of people are on camp 3 sans ox. So we can sit in camp 3 that's at 5, because you have three, there's the camp base, tu as the camp 1 that is at 6100 a.m. So in fact, it's quite quickly 8000 mm. So imagine the corner, in what it should be, but there are other factors, but it's not that. After I said that the méthode was bad at all. It was not what they were doing. It's like in marching during the summit coach or the ascension final, from the camp 3 at 4, there was a rafale vent at 100 km. In fact, I couldn't march, I went and it fasted that I'm not, I was accroaching. You say that you're at the corner fix, but I arrived at Colchit, we didn't grim 8 000 a little bit, so it's the first 4. And less, yeah, during the météo, we could not have the sauvage. And then we are trying to pass 24 hours plus to dorm in a big tent at 5 because it was not prevented we rest later, but we have dormant at 5 in a big tent, we had two entassed the ears on the other. Alright, we have the oxygen, but you made very oxygen because you said that we don't get for the summer. And then on the tour, the descent I had oxygen after. Because we're resting, encore one, we were arrived, we were telling more excuses that we had restored a second after the sommet at the call sudden. And in fact, I had the oxygen at the redescent. It was 72 hours. You have ops. It depends on what you utilise. And there are so many different factors. And this day it's fine, but it's for me that there are very many people who are sending oxygen, there are two. It was experimenting. And if there are people experimenting, in my equipping, I have a chinois who is made. He had three miles, he was very experimental, he was more. He was more, it has a comment to deliver, it was. No, no, it's not inexperiment that there are people experimenting and we have a factor supplementary, is that this day it has been particularly fine, and the people have, in fact, they have an address so free. I don't know, we did that it was a changing climatic, etc. And my life with which I was six times, it's the time that he had breast. He made I've been doing an e-brest. And in the hope, there was plenty of Sherpa, they have that also, and that's for that Brest with ox, it doesn't say, in fact, there's a lot of factors. And the oxygen, it results to it, it's a little bit, it's sure that it's the reality is that you want an oxygène, it's not done at all, it's the mortgage. There's a lot of people who are oxygen, so uh, I think please, and in fact at the moment of a moment it's ashervant because the people don't have it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:04:47

Globally, I think that the one of the expedition on the rest, the one visualises a bit, you know, it's like the social this famous photo prisoner by NIMS, where you know it would have been 150.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:02

It's in the documentary because it's a comment. Ah, I've been afraid on the documentary, he has been interviewed where he said just what he did.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:14

Had to see that. But there's a lot of priorities that circulate, I think, rapidly, like, exactly what you said, the pollution, the surface, the interesting have a point of view different of people who are living and who lived just at the moment. I think that's it, it's positive to know that it's not a table so nice that we put it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:40

I don't know, but not the way. It's for that I should say that dominate, but I say that my idea deranges, etc. And I'm not sure what I'm welcome to invit to say because it's not who is over at that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:06:07

Okay, alright, I'm precisely ignorant about the suggestion. I said that just you wanted quite for oxygen. Right. It's kind of a full because 7003 it's not precisely in a moment, but the fact that it's organized, is that the camp base at 5004, and the camp based, there's a famous glass. The cascade of glass, if you have the acclimatation that you've had, at the Land Peak, which is a valley parallel to that of Kumbu, L'Everest, which is a 6000, but for the climate. If you have that, in reality, you do have multiple tours with the camp 1, you want to, you descend, 2, you can describe it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:53

For the point, in fact, you're not there one and unique strategy, it depends on the. I say that in what I've had, you have already sufficient, but they've been on the co-mouring, I think also. You know, for the example, I think a lot of respiration, also an exercise of respiration, but just for favorite production of globules rouge. In fact, there's plenty of techniques. After we say that it works, that it has been provided scientifically. I say, for example, I did the ginkgo viloba to favorise that because we said that apparently it's a granules of cocaine, after I don't say in the way if it has been proved, but it's true that you've said that it functioned. I mean, what? Après, you know. Après, certain, chacun has their strategy. Just do it one and unique rotation sufficient, and then we have to grin again. After I said, I would say all these strategies, but I think in the common to get a few cascades. In general, I was at the camp 1 and you in the same place, you were afraid you can, and then you're at the camp. And after the camp 3, and then you put that, it's not dangerous.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:33

But I think you put six and eight and eight cascades of glass.

SPEAKER_00: 1:08:39

Right, right, right. So that's for sure you want the risk, the chance to have an accident. And I think that's more than one. There were three chapas two years ago, it was a dizao of years after two semaines, who are more in the cascade of glass. And that's one, I think that when you say that, I think that it also alerts, it makes the shows. But I think the expedition propose a little and less to get a similar, like the island peak. I would not have the island peak. But uh, it would be the Mira Peak also, who is already a little bit low and cap, but it's a little bit to get a 6000 because it permits to acclimately for evidence just to pass the time with the cascade of glass.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:54

It's étonnant the fact that there's a cascade of glass côté nepalais, it's étonnant that the ascension it was côté tibetan n'a pas été plus populaire, you know. Because I've loved and comprised, is that it's a point of view technique, it's a very gross rando at very high altitude.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:19

I don't know if the course, but I think it's good. And in fact, in general, it's complicated to have a visa chino, for a permit for the region. But it's complicated for the agents to organise this clip, but it's not all the agents that have that. And uh the Chino limit. I think that it's also a reasonable that I'm trying to, it's political, I don't know. In the case.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:55

Because if you have the ascension called Tibetan, you arrive where? At what moment is the two routes rejoined? Ah, it's not somewhere, it's not what you want.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:11

I would say we had two visa, we had a visa and a visa chino. And in fact, it traveled, I said that it would be, I don't know, the city of Tibetan, and the city of Nepal. I said that it's not. I'm not trying to say, but there's not a reason political, we would have limited. I don't know. I don't know. But in the way, okay, there's no cascade of glass, so that's quite a sacred advantage.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:52

Alright, you parlay of the oxygen until the plan initial, I imagine, it was the camp 4 to get the summit push, so to go to somewhere and to redescend to it on the camp 2.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:13

So in fact, the idea was to redescend the camp 2. And in fact, and I was told that in the ideal I redescend the camp 2, but I didn't arrive in the night, etc. It's not changed at the show because the lending, when I was fracturing, I was quite arrived at the page, I was quite arriving on the night, so I'm resting. In fact, I've been when I did the day, I've been created. But I think I probably fracturing the page if I had oxygen, in fact, because my corner was a pretty, it was at the summer, I redesign the maximum, but after I passed the night I passed the night the two night, I think, send oxygen. I don't know how it had, but in fact it was simple, she said in fact it had no force, but it's like the force to battery. I don't know what you're saying, or to activate it, to church around, you know, to understand why, they're a little bit in an event. And after it had the matter, and she was fatigued, I tell you. I was very fatigued and the redescent, it's really at the summer, because we said it was coming, the summer, etc. But no, I should say, I was very early to arrive at the summer. It was super fine, I'm super fine, and then you turn it, you're fine, and uh there's two hours more oxygen, but if it's a mass, it's kind of like it was at 8 miles, but it's a big one. And so you know that there's a redesign to find, but you say that it's not the right, you think that you grasp, okay, you're content, but it's totally inhospitable that you're not enough to train, and it's really good that you've got the redescend to work. And so you think about that when you arrive at the summer, and then in the oxygen, you see the more big pin, the other, and it's right that it's always been a bit the redesign. It was for the base safe and for me the summer, it was. It had tiny things. At the moment, there was a passage, the yellow band and the band. I was telling you, and at the moment we had a cord, and I had a murder, and I lost the cord, and I thought that I should be on my hand, but it's normal and where the pin, and the hand required. So I did so much, and I said that I had to get things. But I did not cast it. But it was that I had and it was and after it had to descend with my fracture because there was no. Okay, it's malware that puts a proportion imaginable because it's uh it has been a corner in the night, and then we did the pin, it was blue, it was an end where I made it, it was blue, and there was a great and the redescent, it's not the point, in fact, it's not taking the bigger. We have to do it to go to the uh we have absolutely to do it, but uh we arrive when we arrive enough, but we're already. Uh part of me that was the gelures quite, so I'm not extremely. They were super rigid. And uh I said he made it evacuate, I had quite a sort of soul, and I didn't retravit the glass. And then I've been with an Indian, alors elle a été sacrément, but there was two doors, and then on the hélico, it's not a challenge, we made place, you never put tons, like direct the matter at six hours, you say hop, you have a party like that in the helium, but it's right there one if you had that, but if you're not at the end, and you please mal, but it's a music or something that's not the shit, but uh, you have a shape, okay.

SPEAKER_01: 1:20:18

But if I project arrived at the summer on me to redesign in the cascade of glass, I think I'm short on oxygen, I'm too done. I try it as full that you arrive at appreciate the state at the time by the pear on what you're like, why you want to live?

SPEAKER_00: 1:20:38

Alright, the sommet, in fact, when I said the summer, when there was the month, etc. You said there was two people, there was a child with his six hours, six hours or year. There was quasiment, in fact, and I have the mind to know that they're at the moment. I'm not saying you're in an event second, you say, 'There's that,' you have the mind, it's that, it's the summer. You see the drapes and know, in fact, that's not the top, in fact. It's afraid you know you're pretty conscience, and I know that it was a while it was telling me, I think it was 40, like that, uh. And you say, 'Well, you're not enough to eternism, and you say you can't.' But then I said that at a moment, then after the descent and my sharp, he has a GoPro like that. And he has filmed. And I went when I revealed the video, I left my mask, and uh and I went on the soure, it's not a sourire, in fact. I say interior, because I recognize, I think that there's a sourire, but it's profound, it's a bonus intense, in fact. And I went to the way in my sourire, in fact. It's not a soure habitual, it's a great sort of me, a reconnaissance for the life. It's not that messy, in fact. I think so. I got my, so I'm a little bit of a fruit, but I'm gonna be profoundly. It's not superficial, it's not a sourire, it's reconnaissance at the moment. And for me, the fact that it's important for me to go, because it's not just a time, it's not just the mind. For me, it's a symbolic. For the local people, it's um it's the death of the world. They have ceremonies, puja, they have an offer, because it's a death beyond, it's the death mess of the world, and for protecting, it's like we have a ceremony. Person, okay, the puja will be without a ceremony for expedition for that passage burning. And I've had my ceremony during the trek in the very monastery of the region of Evres, the region of my own puja, I've read the map that I've had for the moon, etc. But for me, what I'm saying by that is that the roche, it's really like anything, it's like the Déesse Mère, but in the form of a montagne. And in fact, it's very good for my history, because when I had my hémorrages cerebral, I used at the collar of the tomb of a fan of a saint Indian, who was Mananda May, which I've heard, and who was considered by the Indians, by the million Indians, also Hindu, I'm sure, they're hindou at the base, like an avatar. It appears an avatar, it's like a term that is used to describe that signifying the incarnation of the divinity on earth. It's the incarnation of you. It's like you incarnated in a corner. And we have that in the hinduism, yeah. And in fact, it's like a Manandamei, it's like I had a Vierge Marie who was incarcerated in a corner, so it's a little. Also I talk of saint, but it's not very connotation, the same significance in Occidental, in Catholicism, but with them. But that's always a very attractive for that and for my work, etc. And I dang, if I was not vivid. And she was considered like a deus, a death by the death beyond, in fact. She was venerated also more than a deus, and there was a look at the being, and for me, the rest, it's really a sort of render also to the mess, and then when I said the view, the reconnaissance, for me, this is really profound. It's for that also that I think that I was returned because it had really the desire away from me and it was superficial, it was when I'm at the world, the top of the mind, I put a photo and talk, and then I could talk about it. There's really this march interior that is very late to my accident that I've had in India. And it's for that I've played my life in the eyes of the Death, the life that I've edited in the ascension, because when I read the life face to me. And so it's like in the hinduism, they tell me the darshan, in fact, it's the vision. It's the vision of the divinity. In fact, it's like I was in face of the world, in fact. And it's like I reproached that vision, I reproduced my bit ultimate, in fact. And then I was in the eyes of the Deus because we have a form of protection that is because you're in face of the merit, and it's a little bit of a film conductor, but the conductor is the connection, it's the hair and the view, simply, it's anything that you've had at the summer?

SPEAKER_01: 1:27:24

Anyway, the moment you're explained where you said, 'I'm sorry, it's frightening, we redesign.' No, for the reality, at the moment, I think it was inconscient.

SPEAKER_00: 1:27:36

In fact, I had told me tight. I didn't think it had a microsecond. No, because I had a photo of Matt and I disposed at the moment. And after I said, I wanted to make it to the merch, it was symbolic, it's a pillar, it was a form of. And I said, Well, it's not great, it's not the night, I'm not going to sort of, I said, the reality, it's like they comprend, uh, it's not good if you're excited, the consideration and my global, it's resting at somebody? I think that it was loaded. It was a lot of accuracy on the load was particularly a bit special. And that was there at the time, there was a little lot of time. And what I was saying, is that we were at the summer, at 10 minutes in the back, there was a Qadar who is there. And who is there during the time it was there after seven, but now it was because they don't have bought, because it's complicated to have a Qadar, it was an expedition, and it is completely put in the glass. But it's a bit special, but in fact it's quite another one, it's the mortgage that is omnipresent. And also when you arrive at the second, you're obliged to create to front of the cadavre. I read a little, there's a passage in my life. They're obviously the cadaver, in fact, to craft the part of the mortar in face, the mortar in face, and the cadaver. That's a miroir, in fact. Because we are two we are eternal, but we're going to be here like me. But it's also the mortal, we have en face, so uh it's a little perturbed when you arrive at the summer, plus the frog, etc. One of the one it was, but you said the nuclear vitesse. In fact, it's not the end of which I have enough to train, and I said that the people coming to it. I wanna pass this, I'm gonna train because that it's normal that these sure it was quite particularly dense, but then I have a little bit of mind, there's a way to doubling, to pass it, etc. But one is bad to train enough. It's not bad to train enough. And so another time I said, but if I was the photo, etc. It's symbolic, it's an homage, an offer, it's on the road that we're live, being present in the home.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:09

It's a few years that you evolved the support at the mortal, the notion of the mortal. It's a question that I pose systematically to the committee who I've had who are on the VRES. Because I'm at the camp base, but the track. But we were just on a trek, we were not enough to get an ascension, there were three more in three months. There were where we passed and we said, It's I think I read an episode, it's the France, because there had an equivalent in earlier days, and there were a group of France who were there, they were all. And when you see the rest of Livestream, like the cadavers at certain ways because it's telling the old that we can just run. What's the science? And I posted the question to Helen Drouin, who has been franci. And she had said, but I think it's just it travels in the doctor. And she is already in formation, if you have memory. There are there are two years. And for it it has not really marked. But I posted the question. Is that one? And the other question is the notion just of mortal, is what is the difference for you between the vision that we have the Nepalese, or in the vision that they have in Asia the Sudest, we have in Occident?

SPEAKER_00: 1:34:21

Okay. Well, we evidence to say that. It's like the mortar is just present then when you pass when you see the trek, for example. The coldla, it's at 4 000, and then you have two kernels that are alpinists, inhalinists clear that they decided to go to the pants of the bread, so they're at the top. And you said that, it's a apple, alors tu n'as pas attention the camp, and you have two alpinists very clever who are made. Then Scott Fisher, just your kernel, and uh you said okay, okay, but it's always that. And after I've had an accident of the cascade of glass, it was direct. Then when I had the time, I told you, but okay, we had an omnipresence of the mortal. I think there's one who could be here. A Brazilian with his guide was in a crevice, he had a shoot of 25 meters, in an hour that was relatively secure in the sense that you could have a cramp, you could have touched the cord, etc. There was a mortar also in my equipe, a dem, etc. There was plenty of things, and there's the cadaver at the moment that was that. And then there was another cadavre in camp 4 who was there, a guy who was sans oxygen, just who was redesigned, and he was attached in his tent, and he was made in. But I think it was radical in the day. I didn't know welcome, you're sure to continue and bizarre I don't know. There's a cadaver on the long, and I always say that I marched the night, I was at the summer, but the sun, etc. But I think I've watched the cadavers because I could see certain and I haven't seen anything.

SPEAKER_01: 1:37:06

Because there's the famous yellow boots, that's really the show. Ah, d'accord.

SPEAKER_00: 1:37:15

And I've already watched it. I'm not wondering because the other one, but uh I think I've won it. And I would have been lost, and uh, I've had this accident on the cascade of glass, I would not, I would not wear that, but um the mort is omnipresent, and the Sharpa, in the world of the Sharpa, when you said there are three Sharpas that are made in installing the shells, etc. on the cascades of glass. But the Sharpa they have very good, it's constant, yeah. And it's right that they have another vision of the mortgage that the other. They're they're Buddhists, and we have the same vision of the mortal. And I have a Sharpa who was a little bit. So in fact, he had a prayer also. He has a friend who is one, but it had a prayers also after the accident, so we had their prayers. But uh, they have the same vision of the mortar, alors it's uh I don't know that he wants the mortar like a faint. And I think that it's my vision, I can say what is my vision, but it went to the mortar like a fear, but it's the idea of the reincarnation that's but it's also a little bit, there's a mallet of fatalism also. In real life, if it's like that. It's that if it's more, but it was his life, but it's that also that is present. But they don't worry, they are like us, they don't know. They don't know, if they can't, maybe if they have the money like the mortar like a feature, but for a while they are personal don't worry, and when our cameras come, they are at the end and they are shocked, and it empowers that there's also a chagrin, but they don't have totally the same approach of the mortal than the living constantly in that environment. The mortal is their life. I tell you the sharp that I had for the load. When a moment we were in the tent at Camp 4, so it was already the summit, after the ascension final to attend the summit of the load. And I said, there was the show, they didn't have marching, and then he went in all the senses, etc. Absolutely to go march. And it had so much marked that it had begun to flaming into, because the tent had to flambear with us, we don't go to the room. And then I said, I've got 8 miles, in the food, in the food. And in fact, because there was oxygen because we have a movement, I don't know what we have, in fact, but the food had been. And I think it had oxygen, but after it was his reaction, so after it was like it was. And it was here, in fact. And I should say if he had recommenced to us the shit, she said, no, no, you're the earth, you used the depth, you have to put it on the show, in the tent and completely, I said, but what happens? I wanted to say that it's not bad because we have a lot of uh continue. I began to say that it's bad, then the feel in my tent is quickly a million mm, it's and it's right that they have the same vision that we empowered. He was at the mortal, but he did a little bit of his limit, but he was a fan, but he had a problem with it, and that's it was good. But he wanted absolutely like two, he wanted to prove his among them, his family, etc., that he also was capable. Because it's also for him it's a good, and it's the guarantee also of a salary, they don't know it's a little. And uh they finally, but they are so interested, but they have another vision of the mortal. And I'm a bit better than the two, I'm not attached to the life, but the mortal, not for having my cerebral, but I've been interested in other visions, other philosophy, other religions. It's like I'm not for the possibility, but for me the mortal, it's uh it's not a passage, it's it's just a changement of it, I would say. The mortar is to change the vegetables. And it's a little bit that you change the life, you pass an event, in fact. I pose the question also, and that's the enseignment of grandma in Inde. I don't know, for example, Barabana, Mareshi, for those who either and who are interested in that, it's just the question who I think. We're almost that and I think that really we are we are in this world of duality, but I think the final is connected for one. And it's we are just one, it's the same energy. I think it's we have tendency to separate the things and I think in fact no, we're eternal, it's the one that is here. And there's that, in fact. Après it's difficult to make conscience when we live in this world of duality, etc. And I'm in the corner and I'm pretty sure, it's not facility because it's a little bit doing it before. But I think that we know that the final we are one and that there's no separation. And so for me, the mortgage, it's a changement of it. After I think that it's not a while, when I have the tomb, it's just like the thing, in fact. You say that's the moment that arrived, the moment you say that I've never been the time to realize. When I was in the hospital at 25 years, I was pretty. I didn't know the mortar. Because in fact, it was the right, I was persuaded that I did, because I was watching the lumber, and in fact I thought that I got the sport, I said, I'm sorry, and I did, I didn't go to the mortal. And he said, No, but no, but you don't work. I said, I'm here, pardon one of the money. And then he wanted to talk about the mortal, and I said the moment at the hospital where she wanted to talk, to prepared, alright, to work. But it's not pretty. And in the Buddhist, we have that, all these episodes, when you work with the bar d'autodone, and he went through, it's a process, then for each other. I don't know, it's not the moment to say, but I am not fine, there's a chemination of lamb, I tell it lamb, but it does the person who can marry to cheminate other events, alright. And not only to liberate their passion, because the point is to liberate their passion, but they don't have to have the sort of passion from the idea.

SPEAKER_01: 1:47:36

It's not all the time that we have a specialist of religion, you know, with the connaissance that you have en plus of the bouddhism.

SPEAKER_00: 1:47:55

It's not our concept occidental of sainteté or other things, but I decided to simplify it. But paraport to the mortar, we say to interrogation who is, my nature, is just the corps, is what it's interrogated.

SPEAKER_01: 1:48:32

The retour, it seems comment? Is it an atterrissage progressive, you know, in terms of emotions, the capacity to rest in the present, etc. Is that it's progressively, or is it brutal, rapidly at retour at Katmandou, puis in France, in your life three years? Why was it for you?

SPEAKER_00: 1:48:59

I connected all the infirmiers. Oh, it's good, and then they verify my vision that I've been fighting by the CRA, but uh it was double for that, in the sense that it was an environment that I did. And I was rapatriated. I was at the hospital at the end and uh my friend who was changing. I was rapatriated because at this moment I had a bandage, a great bandage for my gelure, plus the fracture that I was like, I couldn't have. So I was rapatriated, and now in fact it had been two semaines where I could, and then I was occupied with rendezvous medical. And it during that time. It's like there was a part of me that descends, in fact. And then I think with a form of nostalgia, okay.

SPEAKER_01: 1:51:21

Physically, is that the fatigue installs before the pressure is lunch until.

SPEAKER_00: 1:51:51

But this I did that for the day, so you said. My fracture is not. I've had an orthopedist who made that it would have an IRM because there were other problems, but there are an examples that have been made, and we went that the problem has been resolved, and that went. And march, get things so simple, I would profit the day, I said, 'This is a pacing, I'm gonna baby in the lake, or I don't have the mer with my wheel for the time, it's a little bit, it is uh, and I could marry a pet marches, montagne ayant.' It's a little retour, I think. But it's normal, it's a process, and after it will remain at the normal, and the conferences will reprint. But it's right that cache, and then I'm using pleuring sort of reason, in fact. In fact, it's the fact that you can do it with your eyes, and in fact, you are incapable, and you can grab the fatigue, and one big thing you are dispassing, in fact, because you're in a tiny state of fatigue and there's a decalage, in fact. Then the impression of the longer that the people and you comprend why the people reag in a tell manner, etc.

SPEAKER_01: 1:54:56

T'as the sentiment of arrive to make the mother on top of that experience. Like we parled in two hours on the podcast. Is that the impression of arrival to expriming what you've sent, what you've got, or is there a frustration of this code where you say it's complicated, the people at point of the vivid, you can compromise what's happening later.

SPEAKER_00: 1:55:25

I don't know, it's different for children, but it's like personal who have the rest. I think also to him because he's not really touched by a FERAC, but he was low, and uh he had been in the etc. And just we had the same year, we had dormed in the tent at the line with the house and I think that it's sure that it created a lesson. I think we said very well what we've done and we said very well at what point what happens in the way, and that the people of people don't forget to compare. I think I should say they're but I think I see a certain way, a certain vulnerability, in fact. And that I think I'm in an attack where it's not for sure to have a moon, these amights, etc. Parce que if that's present, yeah. But I think there's a certain vulnerability, a certain hypersensibility, and I'm not for sure enough to redescend to the sommet, in fact. I'm not for redescending the sommet. But if you have a motor resumer l'ascension, it's really what I see au sommet. It's the more joy, it's the joy, but a joy interior, in fact. It's a joy really interior and very long. Right. Gratitude, that's an enormous gratitude, not even attained my rêve, and not only I survived, and I've attained my rêve, it was gonna be because I've been very when we were at 5 in the pet with the tent, the vent that soufflay and that, the four, and I was there, I said, it's not getting it. No, but the next moment I said it's not gonna be the somewhere. And I was like, and the always it was more for me, but there were moments where I'm not ready because now we're not fine, the photographic. But the two moments that meet, it's really the joy and the gratitude. It's really the two moments that resume that ascension. If you come to each other, etc., you can jump. And you comment to conditions you say that there's something that's perfect. I said that I had all the argument that it was and she had loads of. And you say the things that are not perfect, and we have crazy in the sense that we have confiance in the life also, and to have dispensing this trauma and this experience also in the cascade of glass and that. It's a great joy, a great joy, and a lot of reconnaissance for the life.

SPEAKER_01: 1:59:36

Magnific. Is that you're there in a phase of projection to other things, or for the moment you savoured and you rest a little bit low-core?

SPEAKER_00: 2:00:08

I've heard of drumming, to get their summons, etc. But then different, the pôle. I think there's no francess that they had in their totality in. It was a combina of things, I think. I said, yeah. And it's long that I did, that's a rêve, very, it's sure. But after I said I could see the pôle, that was. And also it's what I've had, my friends and the biology, I remember I had a stage in Peru when I went because it had commenced, but I had a stage on BMG-Marlene just at the Institute of the Mercury was Limarte. And I said that at the moment I had 20 years. It was fun. And in fact, that's a bit of that passion for that. After these expeditions into one time and I've just enjoyed it, the project I'm going to continue to excribe. Après, not for the montagne, because I've had it, I have a living university, I have a living for living, I'm going to go, I'm going to continue. But there are many things to do also in this sense. And I think it's a project, my medicine said the fruit, not the fruit, the balance in the prochain month. I think I'm going to be able to say that I'll get a certain fruit, but after that it prepares also.

SPEAKER_01: 2:03:43

No, no.

SPEAKER_00: 2:03:47

It's important in our preparation.

SPEAKER_01: 2:03:52

Excellent. It's very passionate. If the people will sure, the plus simple is what?

SPEAKER_00: 2:04:02

LinkedIn, I post paste on LinkedIn and Instagram. And if you're jamais suddenly Instagram, I force to yell and post, but uh in general I prefer LinkedIn, but it depends.

SPEAKER_01: 2:04:21

Okay. And the film that started in finance, you have a title, you see.

SPEAKER_00: 2:04:30

Also, it's like Myth Montblanc and Injam Productions. And there are also other people who have contributed. And then we'll see with TV national and international also. Alright, the history is linked to my history, it's really resilience, an action fan. But the film has been turned, because you know, it was turned by Chamonix, for example for my preparation, super images, drones, super drink. In Italy, during the stage of yoga, in India we were on the years where I had my cerebral, an military, where I was, to the trek and ascension, and we have that also in collaboration with my agency, Edkei, with whom I am. The agency Edkey, we have also a real who had all the permissions of drones for film, etc. And he had these images incredible, it's not on the cascade of glass, on the phase, it's a big film. And we have these interviews, I spent NIMS, we have Camrita Sharpa who interviewed me, who had been 25 minutes that have been a record of the world of Everest. We have we have those. We have Maya Family Sharpa, we have Maya Sharpani who is a Sharpani who's easy. And others also psychology, but now I think that it's interesting.

SPEAKER_01: 2:06:22

In the teasing, that does enough.

SPEAKER_00: 2:07:12

Au revoir, merci Loïc, au revoir.

SPEAKER_01: 2:07:19

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