SPEAKER_00: 1:06

Je me faisais chassé par le torrent qui était trop fort. Donc au niveau du torrent, il y avait plein de cailloux, donc mes genoux, mes tibia, ils tapaient des cailloux, tout ça. Et du coup je ressors du torrent, j'étais vraiment frigorifié parce que je pense que j'étais en débilité thermique. Et heureusement qu'on avait un recruit derrière parce que du coup on a pu aller se réchauffer, faire un feu. J'ai mis, je pense, 2-3 heures afin vraiment de réchauffer complet.

SPEAKER_01: 1:37

Bienvenue sur les frappés, the podcast sur le dépassement de soi et l'aventure. I'm Loïc Blanchard, entrepreneur, coach and preparateur mental. I've been sportified dealing with quitter Tatami pour me contacter des sports depreneurs. Bienvenue, Florie, on the podcast. Very content. We had crossed, alright, who I had a story. I was a stage in the case of my prepa for accompanying montagnes. I was doing a stage of orientation with Arvic. I was a bit posted the question on the remote. So I was going to get a stage with Arvik, and it's like that I think you were part of the equipe of encadrement, the stage of the Montagne de Lure. And on exchanging, for doing a little bit of the context, I discovered a facet of your work where I was saying, Punez, but what is this energy human? It's absolutely.

SPEAKER_00: 4:50

Effectively, it was montagne de Lure. Alright, it was in the professional, because I work with an accompanyer in montagnes, and I'm formatter in orientation. Not only in the formation for people who prefer diplomats of montagnes, like the diploma accompanying montagnes and guide to hate montagnes. I work with an organist who is Arvik. And the idea just is to form a technique of orientation by all the candidates and the future professionals of the montagne. So that's a great part of my life. To base, I'm the world of orientation. I'm very passionate of orientation. I practice at high niveau during fewer days in the group of France, in my day senior. And after I had a bit of a part of orientation on the low niveau, and I studied just the professional passion, transmitted a little bit I should approach when I was at the low niveau, not only stage with Arvic.

SPEAKER_01: 5:55

Excellent. Excellent. And alors there's this about the course of the station where we were in equipe of France for a year. But already the sport, you have a practice sportive that is lower than the orientation, because already you have trail ultra and you have done the term camera runner or cam runner. Is that you can say what it's like?

SPEAKER_00: 6:22

Alright, alright. I've already practiced the sport, it's like the course of orientation, but at the end I adore the trial. And I pray also much of multi-sports, the red adventure, where we enjoy just the approach of course of orientation, VTT, but VTT orientation, kayak or packraft on vive. So I'm a little sport, also the sport of nature, the sports outdoor. So it's an part of my life for the part of formation. And in fact, another part of my link also to the sport, it's the part just what we appear with camera runner. So in fact, I work for production who propose live on their courses in trial. A bit like in the tour of France we have a motos who live the course in direct to retransmith and course. And we are a camera runner, but we built the camera in moto, but we are at the page to retransmitting the courses in live. So some have seen images of UTMB or great courses like the Marathon du Mont Blanc, Cirzinal, where we have a live for two, three, four hours, before a journey complete. And there are films, and I'm part of these people. This week I was present on a lot of events, in the world of sky running, for example, the sky of Matazin, for a lot of many UTMB, for example Transvulcania in Spain, which is a man as Tria also is one of the first UTMB World Series that have been later in April. And the great course UTMB, on the semester of Chamonix. Once of that, I've had also Golden Trial Series like Marathon du Montblanc, Cirzinal. And I was actually present as camera runner in Autriche for the champion of the world of trial and course in montagne that have been June in Autriche. So I've been also bossing at the moment on the events.

SPEAKER_01: 8:23

I think there are many anecdotes interesting that you can see on what it is to work at a Kylian Jornette, a Matthew Blanchard, or a phenomenon of this short. But again, I would like to report on the course of orientation. And the first question that I wanted to pose is what I think already feels that you're accrounding in this discipline. So the sport, I think that we're here, because they're an accompany already, you have your trail, etc. But what there is that it was the course of orientation that I've passed the low niveau like in the group of France.

SPEAKER_00: 8:59

Alright, in fact, my course of orientation I recovered in the college and I had the chance to go to an PS who is sport in the discipline, like in course of orientation. And I think it was with my friend to transmit a little bit of her passion because I went with my friend. He had a licence one or two years after me, and I was in there, I was in college, three or four years. And the course of orientation, at the end, I was an athlete, I was, I adore the nature. And it was for me an opportunity to explore a little bit more than the generally when we work, we are balis, and I admire a little bit of a little bit more. And also I adore the liberty that the cart, because we think that when we get a cart, it is an opportunity full of show, it's a lot of momentum. We can work in the world that are not very good, and they are magnificent in nature. So there's the way the liberty that is the orientation, we're not in a sure that the sport, I'm sure that I'm the competition. The course of orientation was quite accround at the discipline. And I sent progress, it has also enjoyed me to invest a little bit more in the discipline.

SPEAKER_01: 10:32

And an event of course orientation, I imagine there are different formats, etc. But you have the most, it exists in what?

SPEAKER_00: 10:40

Alright, it's a little bit like a biathlon where there is a format of course. There's a format sprint, but the format sprint is 15 minutes of course. And then it goes at 20 km, it's really allure of faulty. So this format, I pleased a bit more format because it was in the village or in the park. My format preferred it was the format less distance or long distance, maybe less long distance, because the format long distance there were a short itinerary, but there were a very long post to post, into each ballise there were a long shot of itiness where we could have one or two kilometers. And so it laid the opportunity to get a shape in orientation. And these formats in competition they were as cool, it was 1.30, 1.50 of the course. It's the great specific of the discipline, is that there's the part of the physical, but in fact, rest concentrated in orientation for one hour and a year, get their shows, just know where we sit, it needs an energy mental full and a charge mentality incredible, and then a course of one and one hour, we finish, but we are cramming, like we had a trial of two or three hours. So the distance they are not comparable on trial. And it's also the part of the challenge technical and challenge mentality that will run in the show on a format a little bit more.

SPEAKER_01: 12:33

Okay. So the idea is that all the time.

SPEAKER_00: 12:37

No, it will depend on the course, but generally control the month and there's a départ for the two or three minutes. In fact, in orientation, all these people have the same circuit, all the concurrents in the same circuit. So a few it does have what we say, so it will have a book because if the courage rattles, they will change a boucle different, and also they will remain at the same ballise and they will get the book that the other. In the way it's not an organization on the tractor, but it's a sport individual. After it exists the courses in relay. And at the end of that, you have the format relay. So the format relais, that will depend, it's a relay of three in competitions international. And after there are relays just like 10% on courses very popular in Sweden and in Finland. But this are the course of course of clubs generally or courses of people. There are each people who have the three big people for the champion of the world. And there will be variations of this, but it's a sport individual, the majority of the orientation. Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 13:52

And you said I do a bêtise, but in synthesis, if you're not going to be the course of the orientation, it's not really a chance to eat. And all that you have to orient just to the bali, it's a boost. And it's an opportunity to go, go to, and two, to see exactly how they are, and the itinerary. But that bali is not in a zone, seven meters, the bali is. In fact, the balize is placed at a whole time at an end remarkable on the terrain. That's a line of the cruise of a, the blue, a lake, and this. So we're really able to learn the cart very precisely and to know what corresponds the info of the card in the reality.

SPEAKER_00: 14:47

It's really resuming. And also when we talk about orientation, people think a little bit at Colanta, before just the way a little bit about the chance to do the ballas. In fact, the course of orientation there is easily part of chance. It's the time and the rights for a whole nice, like all the discipline, but also the orientation, because the part technique just needs more experience, and in fact, the balises are placed at a round very precisely, and we say that the bali will be placed at the north of the caula. So now it's to us on our orientation to get the big shape, to put the big decisions to arrive the big possible at the Caula. Like you said, it's the precision, and we church the balize normally, we watch an element, we watch a cailloux, we watch a summer, and one time we are on the element, now we have the ballise. And then we can poison and validate. But the ballise will just materializate the fact that we have a big element.

SPEAKER_01: 15:47

I tell you, a pet anecdote on the stage we had one journey, we had other, but now we have one, one journey a little test, simulation of orientation like for the probate accompaniment. And there was one ball in particular that was on a plateau. I don't know if you're sure, but the plateau, globally it was relatively platform, and there was one where there was a big manticule that was two minutes of the rest, but we were not with the vegetation. All the elevents of stage we have a bit of a we were living and precisely.

SPEAKER_00: 16:30

Exactly. We can do nice what nymphs, it does be capable of orientation rapidly and efficacy. And generally the problem a bit when we debut, is that we want experience in orientation and we have to orient on other types of terraces. Imagine we are the Alpes of the North. If we do a cart just Alpes, we're a little bit perturbed by the vegetation, by the relief that are designated differently, and then a few cartography, there are a legend specific that we have. So it's like that's really the experience. After we have these days for plenty of types of cards, in fact the summer that's in the pyramid, the north of the France or in the southwest, but in fact it's just the same summer, it's trying to identify. It's just that there are specifications, and that's the experience that is that. Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 17:29

In the case, if you want to learn the cards in the details, don't be able to get this stage with Arvik. I'm regarding it, but I've tried that. But I think there's also a way a little bit ludic. Okay, this I've done it, we'll pass at the moment. And I think that bali is a little relevant of okay, if you have to go to the bottom itinerary, etc.

SPEAKER_00: 17:54

That's exactly that. I think that when it comes from a little bit of an orientation, there's always the satisfaction of okay, I'm planificated, passing by, and passing. And so you've done it, but you're because it's genius, it's the science of okay, I want to maitround the card. And in fact, even now at the niveau, we have the same sort of thing to debut. And that's what I think we find accroaches at the discipline. It's the way we do a car, we have autonomous in our practice, and we have our proper shows, we put our decisions, and if they are bad, they make the ballise, and that's super.

SPEAKER_01: 18:42

But you told me of a defend when we were in March, April, that was a little bit more long like the hour and yeah in course of rotation. An extra, challenge. It's a record official or not? We have officialized.

SPEAKER_00: 19:00

No, we have officialized because it's complicated to do a record when there's nothing before. And in fact, a record we have to make, it's really structural. So now we have our ideas, with our idea in the event. So we think there's not a course of orientation so long in the world, but it's not a record.

SPEAKER_01: 19:25

Okay. Okay, okay. So what it exists exactly? The note, Cross Norway, but report a little bit in the details.

SPEAKER_00: 19:34

Alright, we have the project Cross Norway. In fact, it's an idea that was two years then, because the project was realized the year, like 2022. So with my friends, we realized the travers of the Norvège. But it's not a simple travers in random or something. We have a page, but we had in orientation. So what in orientation? It would say simply that we have technological, we have to use cards for the orientation. And there are cards as precise. We have used the cards of random, we have a card of course orientation that we have the way to use in competition, in the way with the same type of legends. So there are cards that are very precise. The vegetation, the relief, the courses, it was very precisely. And the idea was to travel the Norvégion, to find the point the south, which is Lindenes Fur, and rejoin the point the north, the Cap Nord. So the idea was to travel the Norvège, the north to the north, on passing, and using the cart. And we had that on orientation we had majority horses, so we're not on the santier. The idea was to trace from an itinerary as direct. Wow.

SPEAKER_01: 21:15

Punaise.

SPEAKER_00: 21:38

And we had the flood one year or two. We have in the year on the 83 years. We have passed 44 years, in the case we have 44 years of plugs for 83. So it's enormous because we have a few challenges physically, because it's quite long, the challenge technical, because it's orientation, they're always in prison a niveau mental for orientation. And we have two different challenges at the moment at niveau mental, the gestion of the humidity, because when you pass 45 years in the plug, but it's not very agreeable. And also the humidity on the pies, we can see that the Norwegian is very humid at the water. There are ruisseaux, torrents, marais, tourbies. And in fact, we have totally traveled zones like that. We passed, we have calculated also. 81 years mouilly. It's enormous. And the lunch we saw we had the chaussettes mouilly and the chaussures mouilly, because there we traveled the tourbere, marais, ruisseau, and we had constantly the pies.

SPEAKER_01: 22:55

I refer to the expedition with the batteries, and I read in an episode. And we had two random, we were on the way of Bergen, into Bergen and Alesun, if that happens. And effectively evidently you know that the Norwegian is the place that has the most deal at the world, so there's effectively when you're in Norwegian, but there's also a lot of it's extremely humid, and all the two randos that we have, and all the randos that we have on the rest of the XP, they are a little bit because you march. There's not an air, it's a bit of a tour. I'll put the page, but in fact it's not a boat, it's just a mousse that you find a maleol, it's very humid.

SPEAKER_00: 23:43

I think that it was an easy particular because all these people that we have later said we have chance. We are enjoying the day the nive meteor during 25 years, so it's the whole day where we decide to travel the Norwegian, we shopped the plug. And what the Norvège in particular? Alright, in fact, like I said a little bit, the cards that we have used, there are cards of consentation. And in France we have the cartygène, for example, so they have cart of random. Low they have also their cart of random. But now we have another type of cart, so there are cart of consentation that are pretty precise. And the advantage is that in Norveg, all the people are cartography with this type of cart. In fact, it's a cart that are generated automatically by satellites. It's the cart LIDAR, but they are extremely precisely, so at the 5 meters of denial we have the course of the niveau that marks very much the relief. On the vegetation, we have also super details, with the ruisseau, zones humid, etc. So at the event where we went the project, there were the Finland and the Norwegian and the Space, I think, who were equal to these cards, the integral. And in fact, this is what was a little bit of the project, is that we talk we have that to the Norwegian was cartography like that, and we said it's the opportunity to travel a place and use a cart of content. Also I think there is Swiss also who is cartography like that, the France, maybe in 2025 there's a cartography like that also LIDAR. So it has a bit too type of cards. But it's such that it are difficult to learn. And it's right that if I want a card, or if you want a card of consultation at nice, it provides it quickly illegible because there are so many elements on the cart that when there's an eye exterior and we have the habit to use the consentation, we super and we have to simplify the legend. Although for example, on the cartygène, we have a legend that is really very simplified. And you know, it's just facility to learn from the point of view visual.

SPEAKER_01: 25:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 25:54

D'accord.

SPEAKER_01: 25:55

And I think the cards you said that we have some, there's not any utility of technological.

SPEAKER_00: 26:05

In real we have 250 cards at total. There's just an idea that the people have said, is we have the assistance that was one of the point clear of the adventure. We have that in autonomy complete. At the end, when we envisaged the project, we imagined to live like a car, etc. What we have is that we have to anticipate. We prepared all the time, we have driven, we had a sachet for each year, for the petition, for the dinner. And we have to change the camion of my son and my country who are and who have been later in Norwegian. In fact, each they had their big later with for objective to all the six, seven years, or all the six, six years. And these were so much. A whole time we went to the six-seven days we returned and we recupered that we had improved in France, and we tried and eventually materials. So we were in semi-autonomy on this travers.

SPEAKER_01: 27:27

We had autonomy complete just like six years, but in reality, after all the three years we returned to recuperate cart and the conditions that you've described 44 years of plugs for 83, six years, it was long, because it's like the matter.

SPEAKER_00: 27:49

That's that way, even when we drove, when we were in village, we were in tent. Alright, yeah, two years at Trondheim we were on a sole, and also I don't know if it was at Bodeau, I think, in the north, we were in an auberge of jeuness. The rest we have to do all the long time a big refuge. So there's a system that is very good in Norwegian, is that two refugees are an organism, and I think that it is very getting. We have just to recuperate a clay at the end of the venture and we have access to all the refugees in Norwegian. And as a time that we have to a refuge, you pay your refuge directly on place, but there's personal, you have a guardian, there's personal to work, it's just you're with your clay, and for me, you can dorm in the back. And we have to dorm it we have 20 years we have to do a 20 days on show because we have to do a refuge, a little cabanes of photographs, cabans of chassis, which are already, so we're down also. We wanted to do an opportunity to work, a little bit at right to that when we put 45 years of plugs, they're content to get their eyes at a certain moment. And a while when it plays away and sick, but it fits. The comfort a nice mental it is genius.

SPEAKER_01: 29:25

Just because you talked about mental. Why do you care? I don't know if it's a thing with the plug on the time, you know. When I prepared the PTL, because I said that we had been there a long time. I think I had two exercises of anticipation, not only about the plug. And in two cases, how you have to generate with your friends?

SPEAKER_00: 30:02

Alright, for sure, the météo, it's one of the things that impact the most the moral for an adventure so long. Because it's sure that when you dance in the sole, it's both, and you have a big vegetation of you, and you wear a montagna, etc. mentally you see it more. When you put the pup all the day, you know, you're in the brouilly, franchise it's good. And in fact, we have one of the things of our adventure, one of the motivations was just the pays and the nature. And in fact, we are there to watch the pays, for profit of the environment that is along. And in fact, the fact that we have 45 years of life, it was not the light that was getting. It was also the fact that we saw it. When it plays, you know, 5-10 kilometers, because it's visibility, there's also brouillage, and it was kind of the frustrating we are in a big pain, we traverse super. montagne and we know what we traverse and that it was frustrant. After it's sure that the humility to give it it was not evident, but our corps is really adapted, and maybe our mental. It's sure that if the day they were saying we're going to have 44 years of plug for 83 years, but it doesn't have enough. Mm-hmm mentally we're not pretty affronting that. For example, now we've got to adapt. C'est-à-dire quand tu as 2-3 years of plugs, you say okay, in fact it's absolutely too physically it's attacked. Mental it atteint un peu parce que it's not agreeable. But in fact one, you say that you're capable of avancing through the plug and after I think when it pleases, now it's really accrochy, it's just what arrived, but now it's accrochy at the objective final it arrives a thing that you're not for anticipated, it pleases plus d'arriver au Cap Nord or to finish that course. And in three cases it's the météo, it's the montagne, it's like that you can have and at to press the elements that I was previous, at toi to put in many positive just to continue to advance and we are content to say we have a traversed, it was 44 years we have a lot of what we had imagined and much of confidence. And I survived and that is kind of you got confiance after this.

SPEAKER_01: 32:46

It's clear. It was a super transition I said what were you the apprentices of this of that enormous traversing technical you have to the lecture of cards etc on a long but just on the part why you've got after the 43 years and 2800 kilometers of the Norwegian it's sure that the part technical the most challenge I think it was the charge mental that was late to orientation because when you have a scientist baliser but you want to say you're just to sure and you can see you can go into your things they're portrayed by the scientist.

SPEAKER_00: 33:27

Then you're portrayed by your decisions, they're portraying who says you do put or tell decisions and all the franchise you réfléchies where you can pass the advantage is two friends we could report the charge mental life orientation at this moment it was chacun to do a moment of repos of that 83 jours in orientation that fatigue enormously a nice decision. Après we have a little to be an adventure it's not evident because we're 24 to 24 with the same person to connect and we have a great moments, because in fact it's very difficult to be 24 to 25 with the same people and that's a bit there to encaiss the project at two. C'est-je difficile but there we have to finish this. I think that's a very force in the evident and I think there's another adventure it has a great confiance on our physical and what I've been watching also mental. At a moment we saw that we're going to condition difficult, that we have been physically mentally we had more we don't have to work and to know how the world is in the great moments why does it and that I think personally to say we have to affect these difficulties and we said we should reach at the moment after 10 years when you put the plug, when you travel but in fact how you reach that we appear and also confiance to see our corner adaptation we said it would be very long adapted to the allure, it was adapted to the it was incredible to see in my life to imagine because you had a yeah a long travel but you said what they want these people and to live by toi to say okay in fact I've read to get these 80 years 2800 kilometers and see that my corner after 40 years of two years of yeah. To see that it was very adapted. So that was a what we did of this way, is there, I don't know if there was a moment, I should have been after eight years, eight semaines and it was progressive I think in about 15, 10 years I wanted to have a big sensation and I think it's progressively but the six six years it's delicate. They are very delicate because it's delicate in the two ways because you comment and you finish the journey, you're cute and you say what do you want to stay? And once you discover a little environment in which you are the forest and the marais in Norvegan they are not like in France. So when you dance in a marais tongues does adapt. And it's for that I think it's a dizain of acclimatization or in the adaptation and therefore ensuite the corps en route and we have plus to général because the corps is adapted we have the course that we have a courbeat of fatigue that also and you can parce the fatigue and we have also moments a bit difficult to gérer de ce côté notamment or something like that? No, étonnam we have to have really chance I think we have a pet to use that we have in Norwegian but he had an inflammation at the talon for the pies we have in pool and I don't know what we have. We have to touch it we have not prepared we had just we had the night because we said that it was a little bit and we finished the day with the eyes a little blessed and free when you have they were like the first event and then I said they were really adapted and where you think that for a long project the adaptations of your heart they are fine and it was married to it. It was married to it. Excellent if there's a moment of this experience an anecdote that has really marked that represent a little bit what we had or the difficulty we had I think we talked about difficulty we had a moment we had face to an enormous which glaciers and the truth is that when we travel we did have a pond and the 15th never been installed in Norwegian because it's very tight in the season our day it was a little bit we have a refuge just down the torrent and we went to the refuge and we the pond was installed and we have just the cable that traverse the torrent was a torrent 20-30 meters long large and we didn't have to travers because the torrent glacier happens it did 4-5 degrees it was glaciers and my friend he came to traversing along he sent to traversing the pied singe later on it went over 10 and 15 kilos and later he traversed it in pond he attract the cable by the eyes and with the pies and he traversed cochon pendus on it was a torrent very energy with a cailloux and he did traversed the brand he had very happy I think it's one of the great parts of his life to lush at the moment and I wanted too far the brand to travel and my friend was very difficult at the right on the torrent where I had a passage where I had the it would eventually pass. So I went to engage and the force of the Iran to travel the possible and I've been very good, my tibia and I was frigorificated. I think I was hypothermia and he was a refuge there because we had to rechauff and I had two years to rechauff completely and I had the tibia because I was in the torrent and I was here a little bit epic of the event a really we had we said that we had a butter and it was the rest of the event where at that point we arrived we had serein we have an images of the XP we have very images but not these passages we have filmed for example in the film and we have a two years during the project who is the 20th year and at the time and we have realized a film that we passed in for all the people who have such a film we are enjoying to retrava until it's a version we have a version long which is a 10 and later we travail until courte for the projets of montagne etc on the festival sinon we have these dates for example in fin d'hiver we have a data the film to the information we made to our page Instagram, cross norway derived. But on our page Norway we have pleasant videos that are retracted until our aventure we have filmed just à la GoPro donc voilà l'idée était totaching what we have and to parler un petit peu d'orientation in the film also.

SPEAKER_01: 43:48

Genial vers le compte Instagram and you parlay the GoPro it was a transition perfect on what I did activity, ton of camera runner. Did you say when is we have a camera runner on the courses?

SPEAKER_00: 44:16

Because I've reflected I was thinking there are live but I imagine no I think the premise have been realize in 2015 but I've got the difference exactly after the premier I think it's 2017 2018 with the most matos now I went in 2019 on the Marathon du Montblanc and I went in I was the cross blanc in the way and the equipe of Marathon du Montblanc is sponsored by Manche Golden by Salomon were demanding if I did for the live and retransmitting for certain parties of course. It was a good formation in the audio technique I did not begin I think it was 2019 one of my films and it was and to run that there's nothing because you want an excellent niveau for film the course and generally the high niveau each they want the course for the high niveau but who are quite as well for film.

SPEAKER_01: 46:06

So it's not evident there's not a great panel not more on this and then I've been with Outdoor Sport Live which retransmitting the course UTMB but it would be to work also for other boats of production of reality because this week I've bought with three boats at total okay but it's not an activity benevolent it's really a remunerate you have to exactly we are paying pay at a journey of them effectively it's not beneficial.

SPEAKER_00: 46:49

The lives I would say but it's a month that are important and when these organizations invest in a live we are a big tour because there's a great but we are a big part of the regium they are enormous. I think in total we have for the live we have 20 for the live and when you rent the 50 it's really a great machine that is super and we're not and there's a big economy that creates also and there are a little bit of course that demands because it valorizes a lot of the course and the territory when there are big images on drones massives it can have a certain community villages who invest a bit in the live just to the point of view of tourism.

SPEAKER_01: 48:10

A bit like in France he want these images of other stations or other and point of view technique what you made you said I'm trying to evidently you have to the course when you cover the UTMB but it's not the same camera runner who put the department and all the live sections along the course, the type of course the sections are more or more long when you're a section of what you did?

SPEAKER_00: 48:45

Alright this week we have filmed a section of 15 kilometers I think it was 15 kilometers on the ultra we can just have a section but generally it's under 10 and 20 kilometers the sections are capable we with courage to film the course because we gotta course that we have a few weeks until the charge of the people who travel and we said exactly that the premier will pass from filming the top 1, top 2 homes we're doing demi-tour, we will change etc structural to have the plus possible and the plus possible and not many it's not very great but see it a bug technique and this is really because in fact we're in the whole we depend on we depend on the réseau and it function because there's no réseau at this moment and we perform a source and if there's not a source but there's an image to diffuse it's for that we are reparted a little bit of generally we have a section between 10 and 10 kilometers okay and from the point of view matos how do you force a transmission live that's quo with it already with what I want to the live UTMB if you're an example we work with a GoPro and the GoPro is a stick that recharge automatically serves a perche for film. We have a stabilizer integral which permit just a while with the movement of the new stabilizer images that are fluid. Ensuite the GoPro is in the low we have a sack in the sack we have a boy this boy is a ventilator to a battery and a quatre clés 4G because we have to film for two and we have a petilo which perfect refroid the system we have a double in the dough with the clés 4G the two and there you go the images at the GoPro are envoyed directly at the régie so you have an écart of 20 seconds I think the moment we have the images and the moment it's diffusing at the table. So we have a pet and it's a little matos that we have for example on the live UTMB. So you have a petos to a way you can have a technique that arrives regularly but in the day those who are the product they say until what are the problems techniques and they decided to resolve that it's kind of and actually we have a system I said in the four years they did they had a sack of 6 kilos for filming branch it was branched we should know a little bit what it was, what the cable, etc but a moment we have a system that plant completely we don't see not really why it is like a part of technique that we on the terrain we have for we get a little bit and it's also a little beauty of this boulot is that a few films, they're too content, you see your image, what is and a moment and you do that regularly in direct in the sack.

SPEAKER_01: 52:38

It's super interesting that I'm thinking an exchange with Martin Kerusori along who is in the world it's camera runner, for example, but it's Mediaman embark so he does what you do but the wall super big because the elements are the bateau at a vitamin, there's two and he is special in plant drone. And it's cool because it was a little like the material evolution and when it was very complicated to sort of a drone in plain air in plain course but already under the maîtrise technique from to the measure of course he gets in maîtrise technique and the matos that evolution drone you say what you have to get a drone on the herb and it's very hallucinant. It's passionate to see the method that permit to plenty of people to buy these events at the interior. I made the link for the episode so you can of what the ultra trail the trail in general is the liberty, the evasion, the outdoor, the nature is the mission of camera runner to profit of what you have to do or concentrate on where I place my camera, the two three bonus or fans that you have to profit a bit or obnubility by the mission?

SPEAKER_00: 54:18

We are concentrated on what we do. There's kind of the place of telespect who regard the images it's concentrated all the minutes on what we film. Alright it's sure that when we film together a little bit the pays that we enter in fact that will depend the point I think on the ultra we are a little bit we're a little bit libre but the cadran and concentrate on what we want to film, do you know putting also that we are we are in contact with the régie grasping and we discutte, if they say there's a top three that is the two, there will be to change. So in fact it's more concentrated and it's sure that in this boulot line on the moments where I film I'm not there to profit of the environment of the montagne, I'm there to make my boulot, c'est retransmetting those images, make a lot of the more qualitative possible and there it's just my perspective that I'm profitable and what and the liberty. But for the boulot I say to rest the rigorous possible and the professional for that.

SPEAKER_01: 55:37

Okay I'm sure you've got your courage of TMB I think there's not all these courses that I've got but in listed with classes very impression regularly podium and victories. The question I pose is when you're in the course when you do film just the three homes on an UTMB for example.

SPEAKER_00: 56:07

Is you think there's a great difference of niveau physical vitess etc but the course UTMB we think I'm impressed by the rhythm. The rhythm of the premier 170 kilometers if I put in 100 kilometers then I'm rando course I will not forget to fatigue but I think I'm not capable of the rhythm they have actually after 100 kilometers. I've already had a course a little long but I was very easy to say their capacity to long on this rhythm. I think that it's not impossible in the sense where I was really entrained. For me it is a totally impossible when I film on a course typically a Cirzinal who is a course in Swiss who was reported by the Kenyan and it was 20 kilometers more than 20 with 200 meters of denial when I film this course and when I'm able to see I think that it's really another moment. It's really incredible. A white when I prepared to film I think I had a course I've been in Autriche I filmed the course vertical we had 6 kilometers of denial so the four years 40 minutes were the Kenyan who have gone Patrick it means I prefer like I didn't get a course and the right is to take it the long time and we have a section of 200, 250 meters of denial because it's a course very quick so it's around 10 minutes of course and it's another nice I'm incapable to this rhythm during 40 minutes. For I'm a champion it's incredible. When I'm Rémi Bonnet on Cerzinal there are already on coat a few 1900 2000 mm on certain sections and it's already fine. And it's incredible to jump in course you're going to go with this and be at this nice and then I'm here to profit and I'll say like a defeat on saying we're having a course of niveau but you're talking about Kiyan Jornette, Matthew Blanchard profit you can film you film one year, one year and we're ultra but in fact in course you don't have the name for the size but you're you profit and decide to profit of this ambient and to work with us for a certain satisfaction of our life and to say what I do it perfect to retransmitting a little bit to all the telescope who sure and to course in direct on trial it's kind of it's kind of because it's a sport that democratic and professional and the professionalisation passes also by the lives of course and it's really short.

SPEAKER_01: 59:34

Mm-hmm, etc I've been genius to have this camera embark cam runner. It meant on the Kylian Jarnett already where just we have a group of Kenyan who lost an attack and Kylianette who deposes lamp past genius because we said that the allure is completely hallucinated. But also it seems like it's a bêtise on the I think of this story we enter the camera runner the respiration.

SPEAKER_00: 1:00:24

So we're the idea on the champion this year where we in fact generally the song of the GoPro news I don't know why. And in fact we understand the song of us before we see and we're so very far. And that's the when I film there's a lot of retours of girls who did the chat, before there are chats on YouTube or Facebook or other cameraman were encouraged that the courage because we souffra plus But it's very funny the cameraman. It arrived at 10 minutes, it's genius, we enter souffle, and they encourage the chat. We said for sure, but it's married. Effectively, we are obliged. Like I said, on these courses super quick, we made it away. We calculate our efforts and we go to explosion. We said the moment we work that we can get bad and that it's difficult. But we say also that we have pressure because we decided to get the more possible. And certain moments there are a year where we are in form, we can see a little bit more, and other days where we are more in form, and we're going to pay a bit of time, but in the way a bit of time, we don't need to take all the sections that we didn't take. They encourage the people, you know. They said, the long time, accusation, it's wonderful. It's just a moment.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:09

In fact, I know that it humanizes the performance, you know, because stories not on the stage Arvik, and when you see your profit, we know that they're not the dimension, they're in excellent form physical, you go very regularly, there's an excellent results. And to enter, clearly we wonder that they're an effort monster, they're not in the room. In fact, it should be real. The way when you have a tennis or sports who have a movement, it's a very high that it is fluid and faster. But in fact, to see the camera for people who have a chance to be at the end or to understand, it does relativity, to say, in fact, it's really another universe. That's what I'm trying to read in live, it's a dimension of normal. So I think that it's very simple for that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:05

That's sweat, effectively we do a little bit more, but it's funny. And I think that it might run effectively the vitamin, the most, and as I said, we're impressionable. And you from that, effectively at the cross, it can also run the vitamin of the floor. We saw effectively that the cameraman respirates, and I think it's interesting.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:38

We'll talk about your MCC that you're not filming, but you've got a podium. Bravo for that. Is that the chance to be on the section when you film where you have this rassembly with genoux on the gifts, etc. that have been a things of holy furious?

SPEAKER_00: 1:03:57

Alright, I've been on this section. I don't know film Courtney at the moment just because there was an ambience of full. So I've been filming on the earliest sections, not only over the flag, but the earliest month in the middle of the week, there was always a mind. At this moment, I was like Zach Miller, and it's incredible. Mm-hmm, we have a frisons. Mm hmm. There's a woman at the door, it's incredible. And there's an engine for the trial and for the UTMB, it's incredible. And we like camera runner we profit also of these moments, we pass inaperciences because just we do have the image and the people are obviously the work they're really encouraging at, but we understand this energy and it's incredible to see that. So I've louted the code of the fork, but there are other ones, and I think there are a moment where the courage are encouraged. I think it's kind of an aid incredible to have to public this every day on this course.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:19

Franchement, if you're not sure, let's regard it. I think there's a short YouTube or Instagram, Call de la Forcly UTMB, because it's not the images of Courtney or Mathieu Blanchard, Mathieu Blanchard also.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:32

It's possible. There are an images incredible.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:43

It's hallucinant, very hallucinant. T'as eu ça on the MCC? 2003. That's that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:55

They had literally, alright, this year the NCC it was the first course of the semester, it's just the first course of the semester. It's for me that I'm because it permitted also to film on the other course of the semaine. We have the neighbor, but we have largely changed the work. We have meteorological, so we had 27 kilometers and 2400 meters of denial. And we're on the first course of the semester, and I think that for all the courses or UTMB, there's more ambient. The course the attendance is the UTMB, but in fact, the other course in the semaine, there's a lot of boards to encourage, but there's more great engines because it's not the UTMB, it's not the great course. In all the cases, there is to work on an event at Chamonix. I think that the way there is the effervescence, there was the event. In the event on the line of Chamonix, you go to the MCC, the OCC, the CCC, or other courses, in fact there's a money, not only for the few on the line of life. So it was a big moment on this MCC. It's difficult. Alright, it was one of my objectives of the day on this MCC. I made a week precedent for that, not only the weeks precedent. I had a course of preparation that was the course of the canigo in the Pyrenees. This had been very passed. For example, I had really. We have a course of Canigou, it's a course a little bit mythic, it's one of the big big course in France. I think the first edition had been in 1905 or 1907, I don't know exactly. But it was an easy course, so very simple. We went to the canigo and we redesign. And I had that course of preparation, but in the descendant I had a nice amount with the talons, and I had totally the poet of my talons at the moment. I had really the two talons were beef, and the MCC was two weeks ago. I did not know the descent. So I did that I was in form on month. For descent I was very sort of on my capacity to engage very well. And finally it was pretty fun because for me a podium on the MCC was a super course. I was super content with my chrono, because I was at 2.30 and I went in 2.22, I think. And the gang is very well because we have a long time in group, it had been at great for the victory. And then it's a very good core, Simon Pacard and Clovis Chavot who lives just over me. But it's a team Sidas Matrix who are really very bad. It was a bad satisfaction and I wanted to progress on this format. It was working until I changed the victory, but there was an big performance at my eyes. And I'm excited to work on this course at Shamoud. After I put conscience also that I said, but the MCC is one of the pet course of UTMB. And in fact all the people who measure a nice and performance will create the OCC, which is a course of 53 kilometers, so it is a distance, but it's all that represent the most on this format. And maybe the weekend we'll get on this format, but to read also that I think that the MCC has a density that is more easy than the other course of the UTMB.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:36

Okay. And the UTMB, the course in terms of it, it is an objective potential?

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:45

I'm not sure attacked by the ultra in course. I prefer the ultra in mode personal. I prefer off, get my proper it. But it's sure that when you have an engine, there's an energy special that engages along this event. And a year to get the UTMB, in the way the tour of Mont Blanc, a bit in mode chrono, okay, that would be interesting. So it's sure that to work in course, it would be good. But this is not in the project, not in the 5-6 project at my time. And we don't have a little bit of the system of qualifications and it's a little bit more complicated to a course of UTMB with our famous running stones, not for the athletic elite, it's not evident to qualify. So know how the course evolves, maybe in a dizain of years, but actually it's not in the program.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:42

Okay. Excellent. Excellent. But Florida, we are a bit. It's super interesting. Is that there's a message that you have enough to pass? We have plenty of things differently, but it's across Norway, the place of sport in your life in general, what you do with camera runner, your practice of trade.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:22

My project person, it turns into the sport, the orientation. And I am also for my passion and for my passion. And so I think that's what it resumes a bit what I've done in the world and the project that I made. But I have for objective to be a member in that discipline or to professional at the end in that life or something, but in the way I would continue to put your pleasure in what I've done at the end and make a project perso that means and that means enough to continue to invest in the sport. Excellent.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:59

Two questions. It's a card of quoi? Because I know there's another card.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:05

In fact, in my channel, but you know, but over me also. In fact, it's two Alps in form cartilage, but 1.50 million. They descend just to be a good thing.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:23

You turn the cigarette and you say, I'm going to read the cart.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:30

We are entertaining a bit of plenty of cart and plenty of cartes differently. It's really good. I love the cards, it's a passion.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:51

Genius. It's genius. And you want a bit your work in detail. If you have people who don't sure, the practical is Instagram, to sure or interag.

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:07

After I'm not an enormous communicator, but I communicate a bit about my practice of sport, my boulot also. I made a few posts on my boulet cameraman or formatter with Aric. So if you want to support the project perso, the year I want a great project on Nepal to travel the Himalaya Palais. It's a course of two months that fell 1800 kilometers, which has been live in April and May.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:53

And by curiosity, you are why you on this course?

SPEAKER_00: 1:13:59

I said we are lest of Nepal and we put Limal Tri, I think it's that it's the chapter that traverse all the Nepal fromest to west. There are records the name, I think we have Ryan Sendes who had a record home. We passed a call just to 6 miles of altitude. So I think there are other factors to do, this one that are there not the humidity like Cross Norway, but there are just the factors of altitude and climate. So that's interesting. It means to planificate, for preparing. But that's the idea. So that will put two days this project, and it will help to download the Nepal in integral and to pass in the world that are. No, it's a rando trail because it's in semi-autonomy, in fact. I think there's a trent at the time of the course. It's a course, but it's not really a course. The people like an adventure, but there's always a classic there. So you work with your duvet, you work with your matos, and you go into the home, things like that. Anyway, on certain sections we have a tent for three years. And I think that it's totally long that we don't have to go. I'm in course. The idea is to march to march in months, and to trottiness if possible in descent and platform. Globally there are apps that are between 20 and 25 kilometers, 40 kilometers maximum, I think the most great attack. Excellent.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:57

You think that it's coming?

SPEAKER_00: 1:15:59

Alright, it's the Great Emmal Race. Great Emmal Race is an association that's the Chevalier who organizes that. And there's a dossier for instruments at the course. It's a little confidential. But there are a big course. I've got the organization, it's Bruno Poirier who organized a course on Nepal. You can remark. He organized a course on Nepal during 1990, I think. He's a passionate, he has a lot of work. And he had a great edition of this course. I think it was in 2007. And in the 2024, it's the two edition of the great course. I would not loupa that and I would profit to say it's an opportunity. I don't know if this course has been a little bit. If you have also the podcast, I have a party long and part of the things that we need. I'm going to explain the different personality also the different interventions that you've got on this podcast. So it's the pleasure to be here today and I continue to eat our podcast.

SPEAKER_01: 1:17:45

Thank you, Florida. I'm sure that's the one for me.